Hi cohenite,

Yes, I’m familiar with the application for incorporation.

Not sure how old you were in 1987, Anthony, but every mothers’ club, stamp collectors’ club, tennis club and charity jam-making club had to register then. It caused quite a frisson.

I was a member of the august "Jimminy Cricketers" which played at Thornbury Indoor Cricket Centre and then convened at the Grandview Hotel. We are famous for winning the 1991 final when the other team – the Baptists – didn’t show because it was Sunday morning.

Point being, that line 2. on that form, “The Association is Formed for the Purpose of”, required a short answer, maximum seven words, to fit the space provided.

We wrote “playing cricket”. This was, of course, not entirely accurate.

Had we been truthful we would have written: “Playing cricket to maintain our self-delusion that we are fit, virile and sexually desirable young athletes even though we are well into middle age, carrying several extra kilos and drop catches we really should manage to hold; and then proceding to engage in profound alcohol-fuelled analysis of the decline of modern society, the failure of youth to respect their elders and the general rottenness of the government of the day.”

That would have been a complete and honest answer to question 2.

Same with the answer for the AWU, Anthony.

Ms Gillard’s answer at the press conference in August was: "the purpose of this association was to support the re-election of union officials who would run a campaign saying that they wanted re-election because they were committed to reforming workplaces in a certain way, to increasing occupational health and safety, to improving the conditions of members of the union,"

Did Corporate Affairs want all that? Hell, no! Boring boring BORING! Just give us four or five words.

In the event, the AWU answer was nine words – and they cheated by sneaking the last word onto the next line. Naughty!

If that’s all you’ve got on Julia, Anthony, you’ve not got much, have you?

Answers to your other questions are here:

http://www.independentaustralia.net/2012/politics/the-canberra-volcano-questions-the-pm-must-answer/

Thanks, Anthony.

Cheers, AA

@Alan,

<<Point being, that line 2. on that form, “The Association is Formed for the Purpose of”…We wrote “playing cricket”. This was, of course, not entirely accurate….Had we been truthful we would have written: Yada yada yada …>>

So, while you’re in the mood for full and frank disclosure. How about owning-up that when you opened this thread and titled it (or, some charitable person on your behalf titled it) :“Fabricators and the fact checking fad” And then spend another 811 words rabbiting-on about truth in politics carefully cherry picking examples from the conservative side of politics. All you really wanted to do was reveal to us, heathen non-believers, how much like Mother Teresa (the 2012 version of) “real Julia” is.

And you might covered all that, had you exercising the same succinctness you showed a talent for in your cricket club incorporation application and simply said: “ Julia is a saint” .

We probably would not have been any more believing –but at least you would have saved yourself a few thousand words of special pleading.

SPQR, are you saying you counted all the words in this thread that Alan posted, no wonder the Libs are running circles around themselves

@Kipp,

A couple of key strokes, that’s all it took.

Trust me, it’s a lot quicker than the way you guys on the left do it, adding fingers and toes and belly buttons.

Next time you’re in the neighborhood, drop around and I’ll have someone take you through it.

Though the issue is SPQR, is that you actually counted the words irespective of how you did it.
Tony Abbott would be proud of you, maybe!

Alan your defence of Ms Gillard is comprehensive to say the least; but the defalcations of the association she set up are a matter of public record now; the issues with the application for association, APART from the discrepancy between the declared purpose and real purpose which you whimsically dismiss, are as follows:

1 – An association must have 5 members to incorporate under this law. The association Ms Gillard set up only had 2 members.

2 An association cannot incorporate under WA law if it proposes to trade for pecuniary profit. Blewitt and Wilson started issuing invoices as soon as their Association paperwork went in, in fact before it was even incorporated.

3 An association cannot incorporate under this law if it is a trade union.

4 An association cannot incorporate under this law if its name is misleading as to its purpose.

5 An association cannot incorporate under this law if it sounds like another corporate body. To this extent apparaently Ms Gillard sent a follow up letter to the WA authority assuring it that the association she set up was bona fides; that letter is missing along with the S&G and WA files.

And we even haven't got around to Ms Gillard's preparation of Blewitt's POA.