individual, you seem to be harboring a rather strong resentment for workers with qualifications
You say "it's not their (engineers) competence that makes things work, it's the workers who perpetually rectify & modify those engineers' follies," from this I gather you are some kind of 'Super Tool' dashing here there and everywhere righting the wrongs of the gross incompetent, an unsung hero. You then go on to say:
"Nothing I (individual) have ever put up or built had to be torn down again because it didn't work. I constantly have to modify our engineers' master pieces" Society is so fortunate to have 'Super Tool' on the job, what would we do without you, society is eternally in your gratitude.
As my old man would often say "Son, anyone who has never made a mistake, has never made anything." Seems my ols man was wrong, then again he never met you individual.

Arrrgggghhhh !
What bl*&^dy liars and hypocrites !
I just heard our illustrious immigration minister say;

"we are sending them back by plane to Sri Lanka and not risking the
lives of our sailors by towing them back."

He made it a dig at the opposition, but of course the reason they are
sending them by air is because of the distance.
Why couldn't he have just said we are sending by air because it is
cheaper than tying up a naval ship to tow them all the way there

Paul1405,
Ah, our resident engineer spotted a loophole & presto, takes advantage of it. Well I did say nothing I ever put up or built had to be torn down again because it didn't work.
I must humbly admit that I failed to say that nothing I ever built at great expense to the taxpayer by unwaveringly ignoring the advise of people who have experience & impose my "expertise" albeit only on paper signed by someone equally incompetent, onto some equally incompetent & unaccountable bureaucrat & demand being paid unreasonably well from taxpayers money only to have it torn down again & rely on the ingenuity of some low-life worker's improvisation to rectify the design faults & make it work.
I do not harbour resentment for competent workers I however loath the wasteful arrogance of so-called qualified experts whose only expertise appears to be having a hold over incompetent bureaucrats blowing our dough in return for crap facilities & plants.

Driven by the church is not a good situation, especially when there is several different denominations out there.
Women's issues of abortion, same sex unions. How can anyone with pre set ideas handle those questions.
The church have made a mockery of their rulings, and have no place in politics.

Hmmmm. Not sure, 579. Perhaps it depends what we mean by "driven by" and what we mean by "the church".

Many nations including Australia have had effective leaders who have been faithful church members.

And, of course, not all churches are the same in what they require of members, including on the issues you mention - abortion and same sex unions.

The problems with Mr Abbott and the church seem to exist on several levels. Most disturbingly, he was shown on national television to have blatantly lied about even meeting Cardinal Pell, as satirised here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvYzLIywCiA

The reason for that meeting was explored to some extent here and elsewhere, but never explained satisfactorily.

http://www.independentaustralia.net/2011/politics/while-abbott-is-opposition-leader-gillard-is-safe/

If there have been other meetings between the two, and what transpired, we will probably never know.

This is probably one of the issues underlying Mr Abbott's continuing poor standing in the polls.

But is it fair to generalise from this to all church members who are party leaders, or to all churches?

Abbott as a former inmate of the catholic church, i believe would have pre set ideas and belief. The mentioned situations are important to the persons involved, especially women's issues Contraception and Abortion.
Why would Abbott want to cover up a meeting with the head monk. Maybe it had something to do with the investigation that is going through the catholic church now.
I was not talking about religion in general, my comment was specific to Abbott.