The National Forum   Donate   Your Account   On Line Opinion   Forum   Blogs   Polling   About   
The Forum - On Line Opinion's article discussion area



Syndicate
RSS/XML


RSS 2.0

Main Articles General

Sign In      Register

The Forum > Article Comments > The truth on homosexual health > Comments

The truth on homosexual health : Comments

By Alan Austin, published 14/9/2012

It appears to be true that GLTB people do live shorter lives, which ought to give cause for discussion not necessarily denunciation.

  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. 4
  6. Page 5
  7. 6
  8. 7
  9. 8
  10. 9
  11. All
individual,

"...that's our word..."

Sorry, mate, words are not entities that can be "owned" - they are subject to evolution of meaning, dictated by social mores.
Posted by Poirot, Saturday, 15 September 2012 10:14:08 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Poirot,
I'm sorry but your defensive argument is water off a duck's back in my book. Just look at what happened or rather what you lot did to a word which harmlessly described a just as harmless state of either one's feeling or a group ? The word gay ! It meant lightheartedness & feeling unencumbered. You lot hijacked it & claimed yes, claimed it as yes again, "your" word.
You really should feel a tad hypocritical.
Posted by individual, Saturday, 15 September 2012 11:40:11 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
individual,

Words are not entities that can be "hijacked"...they are subject to evolution of meaning, dictated by social mores.
Posted by Poirot, Saturday, 15 September 2012 11:42:54 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
they are subject to evolution of meaning, dictated by social mores.
Poirot,
Yes, that is an extremely convenient way to talk one's way out of it. That's why history gets so distorted, especially when academics interpret it. The sad thing is that many succinct descriptions now require endless gobbledegook to describe things, events & people. This gobbledegook, invented by academia is what enables callous & devoid of integrity lawyers to persecute decent folk. Some politicians make use of it also.
Posted by individual, Saturday, 15 September 2012 12:47:58 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Individual, to help you be informed, Google "Original meaning of the word Gay"
Posted by Kipp, Saturday, 15 September 2012 12:57:47 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
I believe that Individual is right and that Poirot is missing the point. Supporters of gay "marriage" are cannot argue that the meaning of "marriage" has already evolved; they are actually agitating for its meaning to be changed by legislation — for a new meaning to be foisted on all of us by decree.

Consider two related questions: (a) Should same sex couples have the same legal rights as traditional married couples including the right to call their relationship a marriage? (b) Should same sex couples have the same legal rights as traditional married couples provided that they use a word other than "marriage" to describe their relationship? I suspect that a huge majority would assent to (b) but that there would be no majority for (a). If this proved to be true, you could argue that the meaning of "marriage" has already evolved to include same sex relationships, or is likely to any time soon.
I'm sure that most people still regard a homosexual relationship as categorically different from a heterosexual one. Not inferior, not less acceptable — just different. And it's linguistically convenient to have different words to indicate categorically different things. We would strongly oppose any suggestion to drop the distinction between "son" and "daughter" — to argue that we might just as well call all our offspring "sons" because male and female children are, after all, of equal worth. The argument for retaining different category words for homosexual and heterosexual relationships is not as strong as it is for male and female offspring, but to many it's still pretty strong.

It's important, too, to note that the opposition of many Australians to changing the meaning of "marriage" has nothing to do with religion or any other kind of folk lore or myth; it's entirely to do with concern for our language.
Posted by GlenC, Saturday, 15 September 2012 1:27:25 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. 4
  6. Page 5
  7. 6
  8. 7
  9. 8
  10. 9
  11. All

About Us :: Search :: Discuss :: Feedback :: Legals :: Privacy