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How will we cope with 100,000 boat-people a year? : Comments

By Brian Holden, published 12/9/2012

What if there was a civil war right on Australia's doorstep - what would we do about the refugees then?

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Sam Jandwich says that we shouldn't expect "a monopoly on privilege just because we were born to it". Why ever not? We have both personal property (which Sam Jandwich probably wouldn't touch) and collective property: roads, schools, parks, hospitals, universities, the military, etc., etc. For many people, their share of the collective property is worth more than their personal property. This property exists because our ancestors and predecessors built it up for themselves, their children, and their neighbours. Australia remains a good place to live because we are keeping it that way. We certainly aren't perfect, but a great many other places are far worse. If Sam Jandwich thinks that it is impossible for people to wreck a rich country, he should read a bit about the history of Argentina.

It is true that we have a lot of natural resources, but many other rich countries don't. There are also resource rich countries such as Equatorial Guinea where most people are dirt poor because all the wealth is siphoned up to a kleptocratic elite.

Likewise, we are not responsible for "exploding populations" and the other problems such as bad governance in poor countries. Foreigners live (and want to live) in independent countries. They don't have to take any notice of what we think. While we ought to help if we can do it without disadvantaging our own people, it is very difficult to help people who are clearly unwilling to help themselves. It is curious how people who would never advocate Communism when it comes to private property and would recognise its effects on incentives, then call for it when it comes to a nation's collective property. I am curious as to whether Sam Jandwich would be prepared to welcome an alcoholic neighbour and his large family into his own house and give them all the same advantages as his own children, even if it makes his own children worse off.
Posted by Divergence, Friday, 14 September 2012 6:15:45 PM
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After watching yesterdays protest march in various parts of Sydney by many people who are the followers of islam it reinforced many of my concerns.

We witnessed riots and violence which were worse than any protest marches previously taken place in Australia.

Many of the marchers may have attended for a peaceful march but found themselves caught up in what eventuated to be a riot of mass proportions.

It proves that there is an element of radicals amongst their communities who are willing and able to attack our Australian beliefs, customs and spiritual rights in the name of Allah.

How many of those protesters arrived on our shores as refugees?
How many of them accept welfare provided by us the tax payers?
Was this protest and riot the first of many we Australian people will be confronted with in the name of Allah?
Posted by gypsy, Sunday, 16 September 2012 9:45:55 AM
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Remember 1 thing these are the same religion (or lack of it) that are coming on the boats as refugees and most boats have 95% men. I have said before this is possible a deliberate action by Malaysia and Indonesia to undermine Australia.
They can stop most of them coming if they want to by introducing visas for them and return tickets and most important a few questions when they arrive. The know they are not going home after a holiday they are going to Australia.
The more that come the weaker Australia gets and more bankrupt.
Posted by Philip S, Sunday, 16 September 2012 10:47:31 AM
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