Roses, the points that you and Geoff make apply to China far more than they apply to the US.

Some key numbers for you to think about:

"The richest 70 members of China’s legislature added more to their wealth last year than the combined net worth of all 535 members of the U.S. Congress, the president and his Cabinet, and the nine Supreme Court justices.

The net worth of the 70 richest delegates in China’s National People’s Congress, which opens its annual session on March 5, rose to 565.8 billion yuan ($89.8 billion) in 2011, a gain of $11.5 billion from 2010, according to figures from the Hurun Report, which tracks the country’s wealthy. That compares to the $7.5 billion net worth of all 660 top officials in the three branches of the U.S. government."

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-02-27/china-s-billionaire-people-s-congress-makes-capitol-hill-look-like-pauper

So to sum up: Net worth of America's top 660 government figures: $7.5 billion.

Net worth of China's top 70: $89.8 billion.

Chew on that too, Arjay. Kinda makes the fact that all your wild conspiracy theories revolve around shadowy US cabals look kinda silly.

TRTL you are quoting from the very people who control the debt money creation system.It like asking the foxes in charge of the hen house, if they are killing too many hens.

I deal in the coniving reality of human depravity.It is all around us." There will be no carbon tax under the Govt I lead."

See http://www.globalresearch.ca/ and then tell me I live in a dream world of conspiracy.People have been scheming and conspiring for absolute power ever since the mythical days of the Adam and Eve.

Wanna a place a real bet on what I see? Try also http://www.ae911truth.org/

CHERFUL wrote: "Beside the reasons he cites for this I was just wondering if the use of cheap Mexican labour may have played a part as well."

Yes, massive Third World immigration has played a role in America's undoing, an issue explored in Patrick Buchanan's brilliant 2011 book "Suicide of a Superpower".

http://www.amazon.com/Suicide-Superpower-Will-America-Survive/dp/0312579977

An interesting comparison of the elites in China and the United States:

"China’s Rise, America’s Fall" - http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/chinas-rise-americas-fall/

British-American columnist John Derbyshire argues that China has one major advantage over the United States:

"China has one great thing going for her: ethnic homogeneity...

Metropolitan China is at least 99 percent Han Chinese. Only in the troublesome outer regions of Tibet and Turkestan are there any large numbers of non-Chinese. The leadership boasts of their 56 “national minorities” mainly for the purpose of pretending, to themselves and us, that the Uighurs and Tibetans are just as Chinese as the Manchus and the Zhuang. If the Chinese had the good sense to give these outer regions real autonomy as I have urged them to (why don’t people listen?), China would be more ethnically homogeneous than Japan. Even as things are, non-Chinese persons are only three percent or so of China’s population.

China is thus spared a multiethnic society’s massive inefficiencies and vexations. Whatever may happen to their system of government, they will at least be dealing with each other without ethnic rancor.

The 21st century will not be like that for America."

http://takimag.com/article/the_chinese_advantage_john_derbyshire#axzz23XswqNGh

Western elites may have deluded themselves into believing that "diversity is strength" but the Chinese certainly aren't that dumb. Don't expect Beijing to open China's borders to waves of ethnically-disparate immigrants.

America was dead in the water when it embraced capitalism and greed. Those two cancers, when combined with extreme nationalism and religious derangement, brought about its desire to control the world using military force.

For decades it has brayed about standing for freedom, democracy and human rights while it has killed millions and built military bases everywhere.

The crunch has come because China cannot be contained and it cannot be beaten. This will cause the U.S. to use nukes to try to enforce its will upon the world.

Extinction awaits humanity! Soon.

'Turn' - point taken re difference in wealth of the governing elites of China and the US. I suspected as much but have not looked into it and will check out your link.

It's true that increasing inequality and concentration of wealth in the hands of the relative few who have power in industry, banking and markets is a threat to peace and stability worldwide and applies to China as well as the US.

Perhaps then the answer is for the masses to be educated as to the problem. I think the world wide web makes this possible. There is already a mass movement from traditional 'propaganda press' to web-based news / blog sites that discuss real issues, such as this one. Distrust for most corporate owned mass media is growing. People are asking the question 'who controls it and what motivates them' of the particular news media they use.

Any revolutionary action needs to be civil (within states)and peaceful. I hope 'the masses' will learn enough to cease voting for governments that fund ever expanding militaries. I see wars as being ultimately contrived by wealthy elites which think they can take more economic power by force.