renew - well, I'm sorry to hear that you don't want to see sense. The bit about getting bread from China is pure nonsense.. some bread products may come from elsewhere (New Zealand maybe) but so what.. If you try interfering with market forces to ensure that more bread is made onshore or more farms are localy owned or whatever, all you will end up with is more expensive bread in exchange for no benefit of any kind..

This sort of nonsense is far worse than any of this imaginary stuff about corporations running the government.

What's the old saying, no brain no pain ? The way we're going our next generation won't know what hit them because they're rapidly losing the feeling anyway.
Talking to a union bloke today who insisted it to be his "Right" to sell his land to any foreigner who had the money.
Well, let him buy his tucker from somewhere else I say until his money runs out.

"No one who has watched the American amateur documentary ‘Gasland’ can believe that we are still having a discussion about fracking in this country."

That would be the discussion conducted by those of us who prefer to get their facts on scientific issues from sources other than amateur documentaries.

Sophie, while I share your sentiments about our future food security, what you must understand is that the only way forward will be for our governments to own farm land and subsidized workers to work it.

Why, because wages and costs will simply make food production a non viable option.

You know yourself how the costs of dairy farming have escalated and in fact, if dairy farms and the like were given the green light for subdivision, the developers, planers and councils would be killed in the rush of farmers wanting to sell up.

However, should our governments choose this option, they must act fast, otherwise there will simply be no farmers left to train the future farming workers, unless of cause we import this as well.

As for CSG, there is little chance of it being canned, because our governments, both state and federal have wasted so much money in the past decade or two, that they now rely on these income streams from royalties just to keep the wheels turning.

One would have thought these funds could have secured the financial webbing of future generations, but that's simply not the case anymore, as ome thing governments seems to forget is that you can only spend money once.

God help us if we loose mining!

The only way that can change is to take a bug stick to all the hand outs that we offer, from wasted welfare,Indiginous affairs, to boat people.

Billions upon billions just keep being thrown at these problem areas without any real end or solution in site.

according to rehctub "The only way that can change is to take a bug stick to all the hand outs that we offer, from wasted welfare, Indiginous affairs, to boat people.

Billions upon billions just keep being thrown at these problem areas ..."

What rehctub fails to mention,of course, are the OTHER billions upon billions handed over, each and every year, by Common-wealth and State Cabinet ministers and senior public servants to the CEOs and wealthy shareholders of large national and foreign corporations in the form of Tax breaks or 'holidays', Industry assistance grants and various other 'incentives'... Corporate Welfare on a huge scale, while increasing numbers of Australian women, children and men are being forced into poverty traps in our 'rich country'!

There is confusion between shale gas and coal seam gas. Fracking is
used for shale gas but seldom for coal seam gas. The coal seams are
naturally cracked. That is what I found out from a past discussion.

We will need food. It is too important to let its control slip away
to someone else. What we are talking about is very large scale farming
by a foreign government and/or its agencies purely for their own
consumption. They are doing this here and in Africa because they will
not be able to grow enough at home.

I am sure they would not allow us to set up farms in China on this scale.
We can grow the crops here and export them to China.