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Why are humans being violent? : Comments

By Robert Burrowes, published 8/8/2012

With humans violence begets violence, literally, starting in childhood.

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If the author has been studying violence since the 1960's as stated and has not seen the increase in street violence since smacking went out the window then I doubt whether he will ever come to a sensible conclusion. Humans are violent because it is in their fallen nature to be lustful, greedy, jealous and full of self. It did not take a life of abuse to cause the science graduate to take it out at the Batman movie recently. The denial of the fallen nature always leads to wrong conclusion. People steal because forbidden fruit appears to taste better than legal fruit.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 9 August 2012 12:13:38 AM
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I hate to be uncharitable, but I don't see how a Gilligan's Island experience qualifies Mr Burrowes to make the assertions that he does. Other than the excessive focus on The Self, the article also lacks data, coherence and frankly an understanding of reality.
Posted by rational-debate, Thursday, 9 August 2012 11:28:20 AM
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>>Other than the excessive focus on The Self, the article also lacks data<<

Which is what you'd expect from two pacifists sitting about navel gazing for fourteen years. How on earth was Mr Burrowes hoping to gather information about the causes of human violence using that methodology? Divine inspiration?

Robert: wouldn't those 14 years have been better spent examining the psychology of people who are violent instead of two people who aren't? If you wanted to research the causes of violence you really couldn't have picked a worse method than the one you did. No wonder all your conclusions are so dubious.

Cheers,

Tony
Posted by Tony Lavis, Thursday, 9 August 2012 3:48:43 PM
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How extremely depressing, to spend one's life in such an utterly pointless fashion. To be curious about why people are violent is a perfectly natural part of life, just one of many unfathomable facets of being human. But to spend such a huge slab of one's life obsessing about it is merely sad.

And then to arrive at the end (one hopes) of this journey and find only banality is nothing short of tragic.

I took a quick peek at the document that Mr Burrowes referred us to. And immediately felt as though I was intruding upon someone's private nervous breakdown. It makes no sense whatsoever.

"It takes enormous and protracted violence to terrorise the individual into accepting paid work in a modern economy"

Enormous and protracted violence is required to get us into the workforce? I'm sorry, that is not the planet I live on. It might be the planet of someone who is looking to justify their own lack of intention to earn what is commonly known as an honest wage, but it sure ain't mine.

The end result is a lecture on child-rearing, from someone who clearly has no children of his own, but is also so thoroughly emotionally damaged that they actually think that this makes sense:

"Because all adults have been so dysfunctionalised by violence, they now believe that chronic and compulsive interference in the natural development of the child, and particularly in the expression of its feelings, is 'normal'. Why? Because this violent interference is regarded as necessary to 'socialise' the child in the ways of its society. But the outcome is disastrous and tragic: this violent interference makes it impossible for any child to become properly functional (which does not include being obedient) let alone to realise its genetic potential for consciousness (or Self-realisation)."

Please. Seek help.
Posted by Pericles, Thursday, 9 August 2012 5:14:38 PM
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