"Peter Lang and his ilk just shoot their mouths off with no substance to back it... the indirect death toll from Chernobyl is said to be a million."

@Arjay is apparently immune to the wonderful irony of accusing someone of something, then doing that very same thing, in exactly the same paragraph. While we are at it, Ben Heard is said to be the coolest man in the world.

Thank you Arjay, you made my day.

Ben Heard,have you read the numerous articles by Arnie Gunderson? http://fairewinds.com Dr Helen Cauldicott is a very credible source also.

Time for Ben Heard to have a look in the mirror also.How about addressing Gunderson's reality of hot particles and the radiation in Tokoyo?

Sadly - but inevitably - you are backing another dud horse, Arjay.

>>have you read the numerous articles by Arnie Gunderson?<<

While there is no doubt that Mr Gundersen (note the spelling) promotes himself as some kind of expert - presumably to enable him to make some money on the pundit circuit - he is far from the genuine article, I'm afraid.

A quick poke around the glorious interwebs will show that he has a background as an engineer in a minor nuclear facility, a million miles from the complexity of the systems upon which he now presumes to pass judgment. His experience dates from 1972 to 1990, since which time he has earned his crust as a high school teacher. Nothing wrong with that, of course. But it is hard to take him seriously with such a tenuous connection with the serious issues that he now pontificates upon, is it not...

I suspect there are many who contribute to this very site who are better qualified, more capable, and more credible on the topic than dear "Arnie".

Pericles again rides the steed of consensus logic with no facts or cognitive fidelity to back it up.Just like the BS of Global Warming you accept consensus science.

Character assassination is the tool of the desperate and clueless Pericles,of which you are the master.You have failed repeatedly to argue the logic of the 911 crimes and again fail to do likewise on Fukushima.

"… accept consensus science." So how does this work, Arjay? Does only the reverse apply? Gundersen must be right because no one else has been able to replicate his claimed findings of those five soil samples.

Of which, if memory serves me, only one showed one isotope that seemed to represent an anomaly of any potential significance?

"Character assassination is the tool of the desperate and clueless…" seems unfair, given your extensive posting history uses character assassination as frequently as other people use correct syntax.

Oh come now, Arjay.

Face it, you're not even fooling yourself any more.

>>Pericles again rides the steed of consensus logic with no facts or cognitive fidelity to back it up<<

Logic needs no consensus. If it did, your own stance on 9/11 would be thoroughly steamrollered by the vast majority of observers who accept the facts as they have been presented. As it is, you have been unable to devise even a non-consensus version of those events that stands up to a single moment's scrutiny. So on both counts, you lack any credibility whatsoever.

>>Character assassination is the tool of the desperate and clueless Pericles,of which you are the master.<<

Maybe so. Although the status of "master" is debatable. I consider myself a novice - a perpetual learner, if you will - in all fields in which I dabble. Unlike your current choice of doom'n'gloom pundit, who presents himself as some kind of expert in his field.

When he most clearly is not.

You can easily find, as I did, a substantial body of evidence - real evidence, not merely wild claims of the sort Gundersen has become famous for - that show him up as a noisy agitator with only a marginal grasp of the facts.

Here's just one, in a series of many.

http://atomicinsights.com/2012/07/arnie-gundersen-caught-on-video-lying-about-risk-of-radiation-released-during-fukushima-event.html

It has nothing to do with character assassination, and everything to do withe the credibility of your sources. Which remain, as ever, thoroughly questionable.

But please, don't stop. Every one of your posts acts as an incentive for me to dig a little deeper, and sift the credible from the fanciful.

If you do nothing else with your life Arjay, at least you can claim the honour of being a tremendous motivator for truth.

Only not, quite, in the way that you seem to see yourself.