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'Back door' boat arrivals: Tony Abbott's claims about Christianity : Comments

By Mitchell Landrigan, published 26/7/2012

Tony Abbott doesn't think boat arrivals are Christian, but how does he shape up?

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Dear runner,

I didn't distort history. You can look up the Greek and Roman myths yourself. The New Testament merely recycled old myths and added new ones. The resurrection is a common theme in mythology.

Sometimes there is truth in poetry. From Swinburne's 'The Garden of Proserpine':

From too much love of living,
From hope and fear set free,
We thank with brief thanksgiving
Whatever gods may be
That no life lives for ever;
That dead men rise up never;
That even the weariest river
Winds somewhere safe to sea.

When you die you are dead. That's it even if your name is Jeus.
Posted by david f, Thursday, 26 July 2012 9:31:35 PM
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Whatever your belief, this is supposed to be a secular state. So even though the law is based around Judeo-Christian principles the argument is pretty pointless.

We are however a democratic country. Democracy is defined thus: government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.

Sooo - what determines this? Why it is a MAJORITY vote. Because that's how Democracy works. Every adult has the right and in this country, legal obligation to vote and when the counting is done the Political Party or alliance which gets the most support RULES.

Now 80% of Australians could be xenophobic war mongering religious zealots (yes, yes I know - that pretty much describes the Arab world, not us, but I'm coming to my point) and the other 20% fun-loving pacifist athiests but in the DEMOCRACY the 80% RULES.

So if the MAJORITY of Australians for whatever reason - and it doesn't even have to be a good one - DO NOT WANT this invasion of illegal immigrants (worse case) or queue jumpers (best case) then our elected Government should be listening - very intently - and doing the will of the people.

If you don't believe most Australians want a stop to the breach of our security and borders, to the blatant playing of our Naval forces and our so-called International obligations by Indonesia, to the unplanned unwelcome strain on Australia's welfare system and social structure by these invaders, then it's time to get off your cloud and back to planet Earth.

The proverbial drovers dog could win the next election for the LNP and the enormous cock-up by KRUDD in taking a policy that was working and changing it to please some bleeding heart minority groups is going to be part of the reason. PLEASE - bring it on!
Posted by divine_msn, Thursday, 26 July 2012 10:12:41 PM
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Divine if you seriously believe that a few thousand people landing on an island 5,300 km from Sydney breach our security you are a really weird little man.
Posted by Marilyn Shepherd, Saturday, 28 July 2012 4:57:41 PM
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Marilyn is my shepherd.
I shall not want.
Lead us not into Penn Station.
But deliver us from weevils.

As far being frightened by a few thousand people landing at a distance from Sydney, I am not frightened. I don't know the meaning of the word, fear. I'm afraid to look it up.

Love your posts, Marilyn.
Posted by david f, Saturday, 28 July 2012 5:06:57 PM
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Marilyn - If you believe that not a single person out of those thousands who've landed on that Island 5,300 kms from Sydney, mostly without identification, has proved to be a security risk it's time to ditch your current drug for a big dose of reality.

Fact: Any uncontrolled entry or importation constitutes far higher risk than those which are regulated. Do these 'refugees' stay on that far flung island? No they end up in Sydney or Melbourne or Brisbane mostly because that's where the best 'asylum' is to be found.

By your omission however, I'm guessing you agree with my other remarks concerning the blatant playing of our Naval forces and our so-called International obligations by Indonesia and the unplanned unwelcome strain on Australia's welfare system and social structure?

Me. Weird? I find people who have little or no sense of obligation first and foremost to the welfare and well being of their own country far harder to understand.
Posted by divine_msn, Saturday, 28 July 2012 9:17:12 PM
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Divine, they are all asylum seekers, people looking for protection under the law.

They might not all be refugees who have a well founded fear of persecution.

Now do grow up. I have noticed though that the people who are a real security risk fly here - like Willie Brigitte and others.
Posted by Marilyn Shepherd, Sunday, 29 July 2012 4:23:13 PM
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