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The politics of point scoring : Comments

By Bruce Haigh and Kellie Tranter, published 3/7/2012

The sensible plan would be to process all asylum seekers in Indonesia.

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@Marilyn,

Hang on a cotton picking minute!

You told us all in an earlier post (actually, many earlier posts) that there was no such thing as a people smuggler.
[It was up there on the black (whoops, sorry, naughty) list with that other pariah word *illegals*]

Yet you have transgressed TWICE in your first three lines!

You and Bruce really need to get your alibis straight before you come onto OLO.
Posted by SPQR, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 4:52:32 PM
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(cont'd)

There are 7 going on 10 billion people on a planet can sustainably support perhaps 1-2 billion in modest comfort. 5 billion live in countries poorer than Mexico. How many extended families do you think could scrape up an air fare to Indonesia to establish a bridgehead to Australia or a source of remittances? If only carefully vetted refugees are allowed on the planes, what stops the others from still getting on the boats and tearing up their travel documents so that they cannot be repatriated? What about countries such as Iran that refuse to take back failed asylum seekers, according to the Immigration Minister?

Numbers of asylum seekers started small in Europe as well, but they snowballed - to the point that there were half a million asylum claims in Britain between 1997 and 2004, not counting dependants who arrived later. (Asylum seekers were allowed to bring in spouses, children, and sometimes parents and grandparents.) From Home Office figures, only 23% were found to be genuine, including after appeal. Another 14% were given leave to remain, even though not accepted as refugees, sometimes for humanitarian reasons, but often because it was practically impossible to deport them. The rest - the failed asylum seekers - only had a 24% chance of being deported, so the vast majority of them are enjoying "a better life" in Britain at the expense of the locals.

http://www.migrationwatchuk.org/briefingPaper/document/108

What assurances do you have that it can't happen here? We aren't responsible if other people outbreed their resources, hang on like grim death to cultural patterns that have become dysfunctional, or support leaders who are religious fanatics, only care about their own group, or are just plain corrupt and incompetent. If the CEO of a big company gave most of his salary to starving Africans, we would call him a saint. If he gave his company's money to the Africans instead of his own, at the expense of his shareholders, creditors, etc., we would put him behind bars.
Posted by Divergence, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 4:53:47 PM
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@Divergence,

A great post.

Cheers
Posted by SPQR, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 6:24:26 PM
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No I said people smugglers are not doing anything because there are no people smugglers.
Posted by Marilyn Shepherd, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 6:32:26 PM
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Out breed their resources? What a disgusting thing to claim.

I wonder though how you feel about it being the catholics who out bred their resources and simply looked to other countries for more.
Posted by Marilyn Shepherd, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 6:34:44 PM
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Dear Shadow Minister,

I forgot that you prefer Direct Action.
Posted by Lexi, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 7:00:51 PM
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