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History is the enemy as 'brilliant' psy-ops become the news : Comments

By John Pilger, published 29/6/2012

History is buried with the dead and deformed of Vietnam and Bhopal. And history is the new enemy.

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spindoc, if you think history can be "unspun" you've got a lot to learn, not just about history per se, but about metahistory.
The West has been writing putatively unspun history for centuries, trouble is it's a crock-full of excrement--which you can use as a reference point if you want.
Where you go from there is pure fantasy, mate: <There exists a block of humanities academia, media, NGO’s, civil rights advocates and politicians who seek to redirect history to their own ends>
Can you provide some references please? All these want the kind of history you want--you know, a beacon.

<you have become a self propelled boomerang missile>
Orwell would approve; a nice fresh metaphor--though I'm having trouble with the picture.
I sympathise with you last bit of finger wagging; the problem of praxis, of converting idealism into action, but I don't see why you're being so hard on poor old John. What is there for any of us to do but pontificate? What are you doing?
Posted by Squeers, Friday, 29 June 2012 3:36:58 PM
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Truths will out with or without WikiLeaks. John Pilger follows in that grandest of Journalistic traditions of seeking to tell the truth. As an Ozzie so proud that Wilfred Burchett is alive and well in the form of JP. Syria is the final play of Imperialist/Colonialist regimes MrSykes and Mr Picquot. The tradegy is that there is now not a force on earth that can deescalate what is occurring in Syria right now
Bill Deller
Posted by Bill Deller, Friday, 29 June 2012 3:40:12 PM
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So far this thread has been in general an adulation of Pilger. I do not share that hero worship attitude. Pilger is unfailingly anti American and Anti western. Presumably those are the only ones who do bad things.
Pilger expresses concern, quite rightly, at the effects of the Vietnam war. All very fine, but I will start to take notice of the man when is equally critical of other peoples offences.
For part of the time that the Vietnam war was going on there was civil war in Nigeria. The Ibos in the South East tried to leave Nigeria. War started of dreadful ferocity. The death rate was appalling. Starvation affected millions; kwashiokor was rampant. Doubtless many of the children who survived will have been, and still are, intellectually damaged by food deficienciecies notably proteins. Where was, where is Pilger in all that. Where are all the Pilger admirers. AWOL I fear. Presumably black or brown people killing and maiming black people doesn't rate.
And today an Islamist murderous group in Northern Nigeria is killing people with the aim of driving people out and setting up Sharia law over the country as a whole. The name of the group, translated into English is 'Western Education is sinful.' In parts of the North female literacy rates are less than 5%. In most of the South they are not much short of 100%. I hear little comment from people on the Left (or anywhere else for that matter). Presumably equal rights for women and girls doesn't apply to Africans.
Where was Pilger?
Where is Pilger?
Where were his worshippers?
Where are his worshippers?

Silent.
Posted by eyejaw, Friday, 29 June 2012 4:19:59 PM
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Gulf of Tonkin incident in which Nth Vietnam PT boats allegedly attacked US war ships, never happened.I wish I knew the motive of wars a long time ago.Wars have always been about power and profit for a few elites.These criminals have gotten away with murdering people for centuries and still continue to do it with impunity.

John Pilger is a searcher of truth and unfortunately there are not enough like him to stop their next war of insanity and cruelty.
Posted by Arjay, Friday, 29 June 2012 5:21:46 PM
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Two things.
On Syria:
http://attackthesystem.com/2012/06/27/nothing-safe-nothing-sacred-syrian-rebels-desecrate-christian-churches-photos/

An article similar in tone to Pilger's piece by Pat Buchanan, it seems sincere, old school Leftists and Right Wingers have a lot in common these days:
http://takimag.com/article/has_the_day_of_the_islamist_arrived_patrick_buchanan/print#axzz1ytbxhS69
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Friday, 29 June 2012 8:03:45 PM
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"This always makes me wonder why you always appear to be trying to incite class war. What haven’t you learned from history?" - by agronist?

What a blithe phantasm.

Dear me. All war is class war - always is, always has been and always will be. Why else would there be a war? Wars are initiated by an elite not by the masses; the purpose is to empower, protect, enrich or in some way satisfy the elite. Whether it does or not is dependent on their competence. The rest of us are cajoled, persuaded, manipulated to enjoin and support the war effort for patriotism, or to forestall the coming apocalypse
Posted by YEBIGA, Saturday, 30 June 2012 10:59:42 AM
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