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Boys will not be boys : Comments

By Cassandra Wilkinson, published 19/6/2012

Why the wild things aren't wild anymore, and why they should be.

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I too echo posters who enjoyed the article but have reservations. I think it is very important to allow boys and men to be themselves, and I think there has been a very deliberate and systematic campaign to prevent that. My issue has to do with your conclusion that the only people who ever get things done are basically jerks.

"How many stories of success are punctuated with episodes of failure, loneliness and loss, that could only be sustained by someone who is seen as unreasonable in the eyes of joiners and sharers."

"All progress depends on the unreasonable man."

This is basically "nice guys finish last" reasoning. Actually, my biggest problem with your article is that I fear you may be right. I, for example, wasted years of my life thinking, as I had been taught by my Christian upbringing, that the way to attract a female partner was to be kind, helpful and caring. It was only when I finally discovered that the opposite was true that I was able to do so. (Not that I was merely being nice to get laid- I genuinely cared and thought that if I was kind, people would be kind back.) Likewise with my career, I used to think that it was an ability to work with others that was key to success, but again I discovered that the opposite was true when, tired of continually being made to feel like a loser, I selfishly pursued my own interests. In a couple of cases this was very much to the detriment of others, but it lifted my soul to heights never before reached.
Posted by dozer, Friday, 22 June 2012 1:51:23 PM
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The thing is, at first this devotion to selfishness meant that I could finally genuinely be compassionate to others as my needs were finally genuinely being met. But the more I think about it, the more I wonder why I should even bother to do so, when it appears the only way to get respect and admiration in the first place is to "not care what other people think." As a result, I find I am being more and more uncaring. To the extent that I do behave reasonably, it is only to ensure that I don't lose all my friends, lose my job, or go to jail. But if I think I can get away with something, I will.

The sad irony, according to your logic, is that I may very well achieve something which benefits a world for which I do not care. I think often of Beethoven who brought so much beauty into a world which he shunned.

I must say I think you have taken up your stance more out of concern for the welfare of the non-female being you spat from your vagina than any genuine welfare for males. You sound like you were perfectly callous toward male needs before nature changed your circumstances. Ironically, I used to genuinely care about the needs of females before I found a female mate. Now I consider their feelings with disdain, because that is what it took to attract one. You can rest assured I will eye off your teenage daughter unabashedly and try to get her to suck my c0ck when she turns 18. I admire your commitment to raising wild things. Only, be careful what you wish for.
Posted by dozer, Friday, 22 June 2012 1:58:32 PM
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Bizarre.

Interesting though. Get some help me thinks there's enough material there for an entire conference.
Posted by Houellebecq, Monday, 25 June 2012 11:04:31 AM
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