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When did we become the stupid country? : Comments

By Naomi Anderson, published 31/5/2012

Does Australia really need foreign workers to staff its mining bonanza?

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I don't quite know what to make of this article, then reading some of the comments it did dawn on me the author doesn't really know what she is talking about. Have you ever been upside down under an abattoir kill conveyor, welding the stress fractures back together, all you can smell is the stench of scorched blood bubbling away, 40+ degrees in-side your clothing, bile clawing at the back of your throat ? I haven't either but a very good friend used to, often... and you wonder why he might like to leave and sit behind a desk in an air conditioned office ? There is a HUGE difference between working in Sydney and working in the Pilbra.

I think it wonderful they bring these guys in, it gives them an incredible opportunity to allow them to earn a few $'s, hopefully remit most back home and improve their Country and themselves. Good on them for doing a job that most Australians would never WANT to do. Aus is in for a long steady decline, ur unemployment rate is 5% and our welfare budget is huge... and the Government just raised the debt ceiling to $300 Billion :( Like the rest of the western world, money is no object, until it is. It is interesting to watch all this stuff unfold and voters jump up and down like spoiled brats and vote their own spoilt brats back into political office, with the Unions full of similarly spoilt brats.

It's only newsworthy because all those in the service industry that the Greens espouse as the new paradigm, are envious of a six figure salary but not envious enough to have to go do something about it. Doesn't matter they will get billions of dollars of tax revenue to be able to spend in their part of the country, for doing... well, nothing at all to earn it really, they will just complain and want more :) That sees like a fair reward !

Deceleration: I worked in mining from the late 80's to the early 90's FIFO and loved it.
Posted by Valley Guy, Thursday, 31 May 2012 9:54:47 PM
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In 1983 Hawke declared that Labor would never lose another election. What he meant by that was he would immigrate specific minorities like muslims who because of anti democratic traditions were vote one vote all communities headed by Imams or other patriarchs.

Well Liberals saw they could play that game too and from that moment Australia became a stupid country.

Multiculturalism is a hodge podge of dual citizenries with high exclusivity ratios that lead to violence and destitution in poorer communities into which immigration is politically ENGINEERED. Think Auburn, punchbowl for example.

When EVERY suburb has High density migrant hostels so that every person rich and poor are bearing the brunt of the external costs of immigration. Or alternatively if every immigrant pays their $300,000 infrastructure levy to make crowded slums socially acceptable, two outcomes will occur to bring back sanity, intelligence and decency to the Australian socio-political landscape:

1. The wealth creators who depend on high immigration as proxy slavery will feel the HEAT of their own lust for easy power and baulk at further demands for high immigration

2. All but the genuine immigrants will baulk at carrying the burden of their own infrastructure costs and go to some other stupid-country destination like Canada.

Either way Australia will root out the greatest legalised systematic corruption seen since the slave trade era. No longer will profiteers be able to brand and wish for justice in our communities as xenophobia or racism from the vantage of Anglo Vaucluse or Jewish St. Ives
Posted by KAEP, Friday, 1 June 2012 1:35:01 AM
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Ya think, Jay Of Melbourne?

>>...so "Racism" is a baseless charge against our wholly Anti Racist governing and managerial castes<<

So where does this offering from KAEP fit into your worldview?

>>...he would immigrate specific minorities like muslims who because of anti democratic traditions were vote one vote all communities headed by Imams or other patriarchs... Multiculturalism is a hodge podge of dual citizenries with high exclusivity ratios that lead to violence and destitution in poorer communities into which immigration is politically ENGINEERED... EVERY suburb has High density migrant hostels so that every person rich and poor are bearing the brunt of the external costs of immigration... Australia will root out the greatest legalised systematic corruption seen since the slave trade era. No longer will profiteers be able to brand and wish for justice in our communities as xenophobia or racism from the vantage of Anglo Vaucluse or Jewish St. Ives<<

Or perhaps you believe that is a lone voice in the wilderness?
Posted by Pericles, Friday, 1 June 2012 10:22:02 AM
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Pericles,

I am not racist.
Immigration like any policy can be used for the common good or for a minority of corrupt vested interests.
I like many of Julia Gillard's sovereign Australians are against:

* People profiting from immigration while dumping the REAL social, justice and infrastructure costs onto poor communities.

* The same people having undue political and media clout to further this unjust immigration schema while creating bogus statistics that always show the results of suicides, drugs, urban warfare are decreasing when everyone knows they are increasing.

* The improper use of the term RACIST to describe intelligent people who would like to see a just migration program where immigrants pay up front for infrastructure costs and all suburbs equally share the migrant burden with EVERY community from the elite suburbs to the greenfield slums. Far from being racist this policy shift would negate the dumbing down of Australian society and give us the community resources to show that we really have a care for citizens beyond the profit margins of a few elite individuals.

If you cannot discern the difference between racism and a call to truth and justice then maybe you have some vested interests you wish to hide and profit from.

PS people labelling others racist to get "ahead" generally are hiding the most sociopathic tendendies of all.
Posted by KAEP, Friday, 1 June 2012 11:03:49 AM
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It's hard to believe that someone who works in HR could be unfamiliar with the Human Resources difficulties mining (and other big companies) in WA face.

It's quite difficult to bring workers across from the eastern states (this is reflected in the higher salaries), possibly even more difficult to train up the jobless (and those who due to our education system may be severely lacking in basic literacy and other important core skills) and then bring them across.

Forcing mining companies to ignore the rest of the world and operate with only the local pool of labour would inflict them with a burden that not even the most heavily unionised government department would need to operate under.
Posted by Dave Elson, Friday, 1 June 2012 2:14:46 PM
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Seems the media has finally found some immigrants they don't like.

This time they come with passports and a willingness to work.

Let them in, I say, and let them stay afterwards and contribute to our great nation.

The way countless other immigrants have done in our nations past. Who cares if a tiny percentage of them may be from Shanghai or Guangzhou instead of London or Belfast?
Posted by Dave Elson, Friday, 1 June 2012 2:23:25 PM
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