its all about freewill
god KNOWS*..we all grow out of loving sin
from then its as simple as helping other..to see the light

and your off to the next hell or heaven
it depends how much bad..YOUR works did fruit into

and leading gods children from their gracefull living loving father
thats huge[but dont judge tare from wheat...[let their harvest decide]

dont judge others
we wil be forced to judge ourselves by the same unreasonable measure

i feel in the end atheoist fruit..may be sweeter than first thought
or fruits most bitter[but bitter herbs..is a rite of pass-age]

what will the next incarnation of the atheoist be
just no god..or a neo[new] path..[all paths lead to god]

god loves our passions
rejoices in our difference
sees both sides of everything

knows the true inner you*
was beside us[inside us]..knows whats in our heart[and lives only to help us get to that we love doing WITH PASSION*..[use his life gifts/in service of all life]..

just like dad does..for even those
loving the dark damp spaces/voids
swamps/forrests/chasums of hell

beware you become that you yearn to become
but in hell there are far better at being worse that we can even imagine

[yo there is better and more vile..than any of us could concieve]
but judge it not..for in judging it..you get bound into where it comes from and goes back to...l

hell is not threat
its a promise[and im looking forward to it]
the atheoist in me will seek out the david in thee.

Saltpetre,

Calling a statement “bold” is erroneous when common knowledge in following local and world events is backed up by a study by Gregory S Paul on the matter of dysfunction created by religion. The study is not necessary as common knowledge is very clear.

http://www.epjournal.net/wp-content/uploads/EP08617657.pdf

You may consider yourself a child in need of discipline but most adults in humanity don’t need this. Why you are confusing adults with children is beyond me. The fear of hell is instilled in vast numbers of children by religion and many retain that fear for life. Check the above posts by OUG for a taste.

Please read what I have said and stop putting your own spin on everything. I have not said that all Muslims are “latent” fundamentalists. I’ll repeat using different words. The pool that is mainstream religion is where fundamentalists come from. That is, without mainstream religion, fundamentalism would be so isolated as to not exist. Therefore, the conclusion to that is that mainstream religion must share some of the blame for their existence.

No, mistaken. Even though sexual abuse by priests is not being handled correctly, and most people agree with that, I wasn’t even thinking of that part of religion when stating, “…excuses in religion for wrongdoing are par for the course.”

It is wrong except in the eyes of religion to promote women as chattels, to deny same-sex oriented people equal rights, to deny voluntary euthanasia, to have access to taxpayer money for the promotion of religion, to be opposed to science etc. It is wrong for religion to influence politicians on these and other matters against the wishes of the electorate. Religious excuses do not make this right.

Atheism is only a ‘Western Intelligentsia’ concept? I am wasting my time with you.

David

david..i think this is the way to go
the root of creed

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=13841

put that into court
its about circumsizion being asult on a child
german courts just ruled on it[ok a local court]
but its insanity

what...god made a misstake?
that men need to chop it off causwe it looks pretty

the shock and awe
wakes a demon[thus this types love of war]
inability to forgive others/wanting to hurt others like they got hurt in their most sensative bit[heck the rite was netrayed with the slaughter of that innocent tribe cause one rapist wanted to marry his victim]

anyhow mate
pick at the foundations
get the creed...ask is jesus really god
then how weak a god that can die..its not god

god is love
god is all good
if its not good not all love..its not of god

jesus was man..he said see me do as i see my father do
love other/heal other/let others gain the karma of charity

attack the greed/creed
and they might return to informing us about the good[only good]

kill the root david
cheers brrr-other