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By Jim Wallace, published 20/4/2012The Press Council is supposed to guarantee journalistic standards, not undermine them.
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and of course all this research that says 'gays'were born that way even though many lived for years in normal marriages denies that paedophiles were born that way. More pseudo science to justify the unjustifiable. Why am I surprised. The media was hijacked long ago by the homosexual lobby. Look at Jones disgraceful demonisation of Abbott. What a sick bunch.
Posted by runner, Saturday, 21 April 2012 11:12:40 PM
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Same sex marriage has been a part of Christianity - Adelphopoisis - and that may account for the ill-defined relationships of various characters in the Christian narrative -
>> "Adelphopoiesis (or adelphopoiia; from the Greek ἀδελφοποίησις, derived from ἀδελφός (adelphos) "brother" and ποιέω (poieō) "I make") literally "brother-making" is a ceremony practiced at one time by various Christian churches to unite together two people of the same sex (normally men)."" << http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adelphopoiesis >> "It was argued by the late Yale historian John Boswell in his book 'Same-sex Unions in pre-modern Europe' (also published as 'The marriage of likeness') that the practice was to unite two persons in a marriage-like union. "The ceremony was mainly practised in Eastern Christianity, but not exclusively. Boswell gives text and translation for a number of versions of the "fraternization" ceremony in Greek, and translation for a number of Slavonic versions " << British historian Alan Bray, in his book 'The Friend', gives a Latin text and translation of a ... Latin Catholic Rite (from Slovenia) entitled 'Ordo ad fratres faciendum', literally "Order for the making of brothers". One of the Biblical uses of the term 'brother' is .. "a fellow believer, united to another by the bond of affection" Posted by McReal, Sunday, 22 April 2012 8:46:42 AM
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oops, the "revision" did not like the atypical characters -
Adelphopoiesis (or adelphopoiia, from the Greek 'adelphos' - brother - and 'poieo' - I make) literally "brother-making" is a ceremony practiced at one time by various Christian churches to unite together two people of the same sex (normally men). Posted by McReal, Sunday, 22 April 2012 8:51:21 AM
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"Was Jesus Gay?" ...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2012/apr/20/was-jesus-gay-probably Posted by McReal, Sunday, 22 April 2012 9:07:04 AM
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Here we go with the silly gay = pedophile slur again.
So what if pedophiles and gays are both born the way they are? Or zoophiles? Pedophilia is wrong because it involves sex with a person not yet sexually or emotionally mature enough to consent. It is damaging to the child. Zoophilia is wrong because the animal cannot consent. Homosexuality is not wrong, because both parties can consent and both desire the relationship. All the science showing that sexual orientation cannot be changed (whether its genetic or not is irrelevant)to date has been rigorous, peer reviewed, and consistent. All the 'science' purporting to show the oppposite has been shown to have been falsified, or is now discredited or repudiated. A handly shortlist is here http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2010/winter/10-myths. More than a few women and men get married and function in heterosexual marriages before throwing in the towel and admitting they were gay all along because: They are bisexual, which can means that they are gay for a while, then straight, then gay again. They fall in love with a person, not a set of sexual equipment.Women's sexuality is more fluid than men's; Many succumb to family pressures to marry and raise a family, or because they hope it will 'cure' them, or both. When they find out it doesn't work, and it never does, they come out - like Elton John. The relationship they are NOW in is normal, not their former forced heterosexual one; They are situational heterosexuals. Being gay does not mean that one cannot function sexually with a member of the opposite sex, just as being straight does not mean one cannot function sexually with a member of the same sex. Many prisoners in jail are situationally homosexual: gays hiding in marriages are likewise situationally heterosexual. This is how most married gays and ex-gays cope: they imagine a hunky man while doing their marital duty, or nip out for a quickie at the local beat while the wife is out. Most of the men who pick up others for quick sex in public toilets are married, and often Christian, gays. Posted by Doug Pollard, Sunday, 22 April 2012 9:35:43 AM
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Doug by quoting Elton John all you are doing is showing how confused you are. You write
'All the science showing that sexual orientation cannot be changed (whether its genetic or not is irrelevant)to date has been rigorous, peer reviewed, and consistent. ' and pigs might fly Posted by runner, Sunday, 22 April 2012 9:47:35 AM
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