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Future of nuclear talks between Iran and P5+1 : Comments

By Abolghasem Bayyenat, published 20/4/2012

Iran believes her history entitles her to be considered an equal of any nation in the west.

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Mutual respect between equals. That says it all, really. Either we go there, or we continue our descent into a cone of avoidable and manufactured panic.
A question: How much of the mounting paranoia and unrelenting hype surrounding Iran's nuclear program is designed to sell weapon systems into the Persian Gulf states?
And who are the vendors of those weapon systems? Could they be the choir leaders singing "Bomb bomb bomb Iran"?
Once the Cold War ended, the Islamic Oil Wars began. Something was needed to scare the world into wasting national treasure on our various military-industrial-security complexes.
The world is so very weary of fear. Of oil. There are other, more important issues to consider. Like peaceful streets and fresh water.
Posted by halduell, Friday, 20 April 2012 3:40:12 PM
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Iran put them-self out of balance by saying Israel should be obliterated, at the same time playing with uranium.
It's a matter of putting two and two together.
I think it is the wrong direction to blame mid east trouble on oil.
Oil is their major export, so it will continue to flow.
It's a matter of trusting Iran that they are not making bombs, or not believing them and saying so convincingly.
Iran and Nth Korea are the bug bears, of this world.
Can the world take out chances of 2 countries that are radical's, or not
Posted by 579, Friday, 20 April 2012 4:43:26 PM
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579 "Isarel obliterated' Israel has at least 200 nukes and Iran not one.Israel is the greatest threat to peace on this planet since they hold the West to ransom.
Posted by Arjay, Friday, 20 April 2012 10:04:17 PM
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Imagine if a pre-war Nazi Germany had been able to develop nuclear weapons. They would have argued that as a sovereign nation amongst equals they had that right. When they tried to exercise that right, with heavy water experiment in Norway, the west left no stone unturned and accepted quite significant collateral damage; to ensure any nuclear facility was denied them. Particularly, as they were moving on quite rapidly with missile development, which if allowed to progress unimpeded, may have seen the very early development of IBM's capable of reaching America?
If all Iran wants is peaceful power provision; then perhaps they ought to explore thorium reactors. India has 2 30 megawatt thorium reactors in operation. Thorium can't be processed through reaction into thermo-nuclear weapons. Iran has promulgated a view that it intends to obliterate Israel?
If Israel does indeed have a nuclear arsenal, then it might well conclude, use it or lose it? And if it did use it, would that end the problems besetting the Middle East?
Well no, given in a time of rapidly rising use/need, oil supplies would be seriously curtailed; perhaps to the point where they threatened major powers defence arrangements; and, most major power would find that completely intolerable/totally unacceptable and would react? Perhaps ushering in huge environmental harm; or, WW111?
It's not what I want but how I analyse it! Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Saturday, 21 April 2012 10:48:50 AM
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Arjay:

Interesting argument, although completely illogical.
How is Israel "the greatest threat to peace on this planet"? How are they holding the West to ransom?

I can't wait for your explanation.
Posted by Avw, Saturday, 21 April 2012 9:45:05 PM
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Arjay,

When last did Israel launch an unprovoked invasion? when did the Arab states? 1948, 1967, 1973.

The only danger Israel's nukes pose is to anyone that invades Israel.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Sunday, 22 April 2012 9:03:33 AM
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Three words missing from this article:

1. Saudi

2. Arabia

3. Turkey

Saudi Arabia has stated that if Iran acquires nukes it too will "go nuclear."

See for example:

Saudi Arabia To 'Immediately' Go Nuclear Should Iran Develop Bomb

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/02/10/saudi-arabia-nuclear-bomb_n_1267571.html

>>Saudi Arabia would immediately push to acquire nuclear weapons should Iran carry out a successfully nuclear test, according to a report in The Times.

[...]

Should Iran "go nuclear", the move would be seen by Riyadh as too great a threat, triggering an arms race in the Middle East.>>

Turkey is still nominally a member of NATO and is, in theory, protected by NATO's "nuclear umbrella." In practice it is drifting away from the USA and Europe. If its Shia neighbour, Iran, acquires nukes, Sunni Turkey will most likely eventually go nuclear.

A nuclear arms racing involving Iran, Saudi Arabia and, most likely, Turkey.

We do live in interesting times.
Posted by stevenlmeyer, Sunday, 22 April 2012 10:44:42 PM
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The Middle East is the most dangerous place in the best of times a slight miscalculation and you have a war on your hands which concerns the West far more than any other area of the world because of its rapacious greed for its energy.

In the last 12 years the West have invaded and occupied Iraq and Libya adding the last two Arab oil states to its list of client states. Not to be forgotten is Iran the West have concocted story after story against Iran and recently those stories are beginning to sound like those that were used to justify the unjustifiable invasion against Iraq which today is in a worse condition and producing less oil then it was 12 years ago.

Iran have attacked none of its neighbors it has been too preoccupied in uniting its country while the CIA continue a covert war and for the first time with the most evil country in the world, Israel, waged a cyber-war against Iran the slightest miscalculation can wreak havoc not only on Iran but on its neighbors.

It is the same players that encouraged Saddam Hussein to invade Iran with the assistance of America and Saudi Arabia. Iraq introduced biological warfare in the Middle East while America and Israel cheered from the sidelines.

Israel sits on 220 nuclear weapons and has repeatedly threatened Iran with war if Iran doesn’t stop developing nuclear power for peaceful means and have publicly appealed to America to assist. This is a country that has a Foreign Minister that declares that he would put all Arabs in Israeli jails in planes and then when they were out from shore dump them in the sea to drown like rats.

Imagine, on the one side the only country in the history of the world that has used weapons of mass destruction twice with an racist state that declares its intention to go to war against Iran and send it back to the stone age or a country that is on its own and has never attacked or harmed anyone?
Posted by Ulis, Monday, 23 April 2012 6:52:30 PM
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LOL

The poor little innocent Iran story again.
Posted by stevenlmeyer, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 6:52:12 AM
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