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A Daniel in the lion's den : Comments

By David Palmer, published 13/4/2012

Why would a Christian attend an atheist convention?

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Palmer: Christianity has solid answers to these questions.
Does it? or, does Christianity just quote a somewhat suspect book writen by a primitive peoples.

A fair enough statement. I'm glad that he covered it with a a Caviat: "that have satisfied its adherents for more than two millennia."

Palmer: Christians start schools, hospitals, aged-care facilities, run soup kitchens, and provide shelter for the homeless.
Are you saying that,'Only Christians do this?' Do you claim that no other religion or non-religious organizations are charitable? And,just what has that got to do with believing in a "Christian" God only.

Palmer: Christians, regardless of whether wealthy or poor, understand that giving a tenth of their income is a reasonable goal in their support of religious and charitable work.
Certain Christian Sects demand this thith from their followers. Not all Christian Sects demand this however. It's left up to the individual if they can afford it.
Palmer: does atheism stand for moral recovery, and does it have a firm identifiable basis for moral values. Cont.
Posted by Jayb, Friday, 13 April 2012 4:20:08 PM
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cont.
Are you saying that 'Only Christians have Morals," Are you saying that no Athiests have Morals at all? Are you saying that adherants of other faiths have no Morals either?

Palmer: Sound moral values appear to be a strength of Christianity,

See above.

grounding morality in the character of God as revealed in his creation but more especially in the Bible,

Is this the same God that told the King Oblidah to mastabate in the Desert for seven years. Told an Army to kill all the inhabitants of a city except for the girl children under 4 years old & take them as wives. I could go on here but there isn't enough space.

Is this the original One God, as melded by the early inhabitants of Gaza & the Lower Nile in Egypt into their own primitave Monotheistic beliefs, 'Amun,' or as is said at the end of a prayer 'Thanks to Amen,' or just, 'Amen." Amun & Amen are interchangeable, or the new one, Joshua, AKA, Jesus.

This is not meant to be aggressive. I just wish for some clarification, that's all.
Posted by Jayb, Friday, 13 April 2012 4:20:42 PM
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Palmer: These customs or rules were seen as building a strong, decent, law-abiding society in which families and individuals would flourish.

Even primitive peoples in the middle of the jungle have societial rules which build strong, decent, law-abiding families, even though they are.'NAKED.' So this is not just. 'a Christian thing." Going back over the past 2000 years I wouldn't call what various Christian groups did, or forced their followers to do, 'good or decent.' Christians do not believe in fairies at the bottom of the garden.

Athiests don't either. Duh...

Palmer: They believe what the Bible has to say about God creating the universe out of nothing simply for the pleasure of it,

I do find it strange that the account of what happened in the Bible does mirror the Big Bang & what happened after. Although not in exactly the laid down order of events & not in 6 days but about 6 sequences. The Bible is alogorical in that sense.

Consider that when a Sun collapses it implodes down to a spec then goes Bang & the Solar system cycle starts over again, as it did with the Black Hole in a Galaxtic System, as it did with whatever the Galaxys are revolving around. AKA The Big Bang. All the matter in our, so called, Universe, condenses down to a spec then goes Bang again. & away we go again. Maybe we are just fleas on a particle revolving around a neutron.
Posted by Jayb, Friday, 13 April 2012 4:44:49 PM
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Catholic priest's again in the firing line, with interfering with kids.
How can you justifiably put any kind of faith in this mob. By returning to the church you are condoning their actions.
Religion is a myth, that should have had it's day many years ago.
It goes against the grain of modern society, to be realistic.
Posted by 579, Friday, 13 April 2012 4:46:12 PM
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579: Catholic priest's again in the firing line, with interfering with kids.

Why is it always the Catholic Preists that get a mention. There have been just as many Angligian Priests, but somehow they rarely get a mention. Other Christian Sects Preachers get lots of mentions as well, but of course when THEY get a mention, suddenly they are not Christians. Strange that. We won't mention the Boy Scouts & Cubs etc, now will we.

Yabby: Schools and hospitals are great money spinners for institutions like the Catholic Church. More true believers are brainwashed, bequest their real estate to the Catholic Church. No wonder they are the world's largest owner of real estate and the Vatican Bank is not exactly short of billions. What else would they do with the money?

You are right Yabby, but remember they have been at it for 1700 years. Not like the new upstarts (Baptist, SDA's & JH's, etc.) They've only been around for an average of 200 years. Not enough time to assemble a vast Real Estate Empire.

These Christian groups collect money to help the poor then spend the money on Church Buildings, not feeding the poor. They tell me that they are catering for their 'Spiritual Needs" not their 'bodily needs'
When they all die off they take the lands. Well they won't need it, they're dead, arn't they. That's what I've been told by the Christian Missioneries.
Posted by Jayb, Friday, 13 April 2012 5:08:04 PM
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Sorry guys, love to interact with you, back Monday after the Convention.

Cheers

David Palmer
Posted by David Palmer, Friday, 13 April 2012 5:45:28 PM
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