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Short-sighted approaches to climate and energy won’t fix anything : Comments

By Benjamin Sporton, published 15/3/2012

King coal won't be dethroned any time soon, and to even try will damage the environment.

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Constructing models for climate change based on cherry pick data without involving the Second Law of Thermodynamics (2LT) is explicitly a subjunctive or wishful endeavor based on base human sexual politics.

Anthropogenic warming is at its root: humangenic warming,
too many women having babies warming,
too many sexually-fraustrated-males warming or
iconically, DIRTY_NAPPYgenic warming.

To isolate the problem to the abstraction of CO2 emissions, which is downstream related to the real sexual problem is laughable. To worsen this with calls for fossil fuel dependent wind, solar, nuclear and algae-oil energy solutions is more daft.

When you consider that respected scientists from the CSIRO are used by Federal Government to frighten people about our future. About a small population confronting climate change and thus ripe for a BIG Australia. An Australia with more taxes to cope with that problem. An Australia accepting Huge Immigration, Baby Bonuses Dirty Nappies and subsequent global warming, you can sense a palpable Federal insanity.

Its an insanity that has pushed the world into war upon war. An insanity that compels Women to justify Kevin Rudd's political patricide, to halt any talk in this country of the POPULATION CONTROL -one baby per woman per lifetime - bogyman.

But what of the future under this misguided feminist regime with its sexually frustrated male political police.

There was damn good reason for WWI and WWII after Queen Victoria's long benign yet suffocating rule. OVERPOPULATION, overcrowding and CONFLICT. Victoria herself had 9 children and umpteen grand children.
Similarly a Gillard government childless or not, exposes this nation to increased male frustration & WAR. Climate change will be the least worry. But behind all of this is the 2LT: when you create cities and nationsand build them high, the 2LT from the getgo is dissolving them in subtle chemical, geological, climatic and statistical physics ways to reach a thermal equilibrium or oblivion. Its life! And climate scientists will NEVER be !LOVED! like an Einstein while they ignore the realities of the 2LT.

They must embrace the Main Chance of POPULATION STABILITY underwritten by fossil-fuel-independent GEOTHERMAL energy-- NOT population CAUSED climate instability.
Posted by KAEP, Monday, 19 March 2012 11:05:17 AM
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Scientists using satellite data have confirmed that the amount of sea ice that floats in the chilly Arctic is much less than it used to be, and that's probably because of warmer Arctic temperatures.

Each year, during the month of September, the amount of sea ice floating in the Arctic Ocean is typically at its lowest amount for the entire year. This year, and all the way back to 2002, the amount of sea ice has been 20 percent less than the average amount seen normally between 1979 and 2000.

Satellites helped scientists learn that there was about 502,000 square miles less sea ice each September since 2001 than there typically was in previous Septembers.

Satellites have flown over the Arctic and looked at sea ice since 1978. Some sea ice melts in the summertime every year, even in the Arctic, where temperatures are still near freezing. But in 2002, satellites showed that the springtime melting of sea ice started earlier than normal.
Posted by 579, Monday, 19 March 2012 11:05:22 AM
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There has been lots of talk lately about Antarctica and whether or not the continent's giant ice sheet is melting. One new paper 1, which states there’s less surface melting recently than in past years, has been cited as "proof" that there’s no global warming. Other evidence that the amount of sea ice around Antarctica seems to be increasing slightly 2-4 is being used in the same way. But both of these data points are misleading. Gravity data collected from space using NASA's Grace satellite show that Antarctica has been losing more than a hundred cubic kilometers (24 cubic miles) of ice each year since 2002. The latest data reveal that Antarctica is losing ice at an accelerating rate, too. How is it possible for surface melting to decrease, but for the continent to lose mass anyway? The answer boils down to the fact that ice can flow without melting.

The Antarctic ice sheet. East Antarctica is much higher in elevation than West Antarctica.
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Two-thirds of Antarctica is a high, cold desert. Known as East Antarctica, this section has an average altitude of about 2 kilometer (1.2 miles), higher than the American Colorado Plateau. There is a continent about the size of Australia underneath all this ice; the ice sheet sitting on top averages at a little over 2 kilometer (1.2 miles) thick. If all of this ice melted, it would raise global sea level by about 60 meter (197 feet). But little, if any, surface warming is occurring over East Antarctica. Radar and laser-based satellite data show a little mass loss at the edges of East Antarctica, which is being partly offset by accumulation of snow in the interior, although a very recent result from the NASA/German Aerospace Center's Gravity Recovery and Climate Experiment (Grace) suggests that since 2006 there has been more ice loss from East Antarctica than previously thought 5. Overall, not much is going on in East Antarctica -- yet.
Posted by 579, Monday, 19 March 2012 12:36:04 PM
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Black soot deposited on Tibetan glaciers has contributed significantly to the retreat of the world’s largest non-polar ice masses, according to new research by scientists from NASA and the Chinese Academy of Sciences. Soot absorbs incoming solar radiation and can speed glacial melting when deposited on snow in sufficient quantities.

Temperatures on the Tibetan Plateau -- sometimes called Earth's "third pole" -- have warmed by 0.3°C (0.5°F) per decade over the past 30 years, about twice the rate of observed global temperature increases. New field research and ongoing quantitative modeling suggests that soot's warming influence on Tibetan glaciers could rival that of greenhouse gases.

"Tibet's glaciers are retreating at an alarming rate," said James Hansen, coauthor of the study and director of NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) in New York City. "Black soot is probably responsible for as much as half of the glacial melt, and greenhouse gases are responsible for the rest."

"During the last 20 years, the black soot concentration has increased two- to three-fold relative to its concentration in 1975," said Junji Cao, a researcher from the Chinese Academy of Sciences in Beijing and a coauthor of the paper.

The study was published December 7th in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

"Fifty percent of the glaciers were retreating from 1950 to 1980 in the Tibetan region; that rose to 95 percent in the early 21st century," said Tandong Yao, director of the Chinese Academy's Institute of Tibetan Plateau Research. Some glaciers are retreating so quickly that they could disappear by mid-century if current trends continue, the researchers suggest
Posted by 579, Monday, 19 March 2012 3:53:52 PM
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Enough already, 579! Anthropomorphic global warming and climate change is only refuted by those who wish to remain ignorant. World scientific consensus stands and we should all be moving now on to what to do about it. One step at a time. The medium-term answer is nuclear, nuclear, nuclear. Long-term it is everything else.
Posted by Luciferase, Monday, 19 March 2012 9:56:37 PM
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We have to disable 579s google, before it sends him mad.

All this global warming fraud is melting his brain.
Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 19 March 2012 10:50:16 PM
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