Geoff of Perth. You really are a confused fellow. You give all these references to AGW, then say that you do not support AGW, but climate change.

Do you know what you mean by climate change? It just means change in climate, unless you subscribe to the deceptive IPCC definition which sneaks in the words “caused by human activity”.

Richard Lindzen clarifies the situation which the alarmists have tried so desperately to obfuscate.

Lindzen says: “Claims that the earth has been warming, that there is a Greenhouse Effect, and that man’s activity have contributed to warming are trivially true but essentially meaningless.”

http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2012/02/22/is-catastrophic-global-warming-like-the-millenium-bug-a-mistake/

There is no scientific proof of any measurable effect by human activity on climate.

If the waterfront dwelling Minister for Lies about Sea Levels, Greg Combet were observed urinating in the ocean in front of his waterfront home, the observer could rightly say that the ocean was polluted.

It would not be possible to scientifically prove the pollution of the ocean, any more than it is possible to prove that human emissions have any effect on climate. The effect is not measurable, because it is trivial.

Of course, Geoff may not be confused, but I give him the benefit of the doubt, and concede that he is, because otherwise he is trying to confuse us.

Also, Geoff thinks Oreskes is credible, so he is obviously in a bad way. Click on the above link, Geoff, and read something sensible.

Geoff of Perth, I'll see your peer reviewed papers and raise Leo's obscure blog comment to one more well known:

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2012/03/misrepresentation-from-lindzen/

only to put things about that dear old octogenarian into perspective, of course.

Btw

Dear Leo, was it Lindzen in that public meeting in the Commons, or Simon Carr that said:

>> Over the last 150 years CO2 (or its equivalents) has doubled. This has been accompanied by a rise in temperature of seven or eight tenths of a degree centigrade. <<

Don't bother Leo, they're both wrong.

Doubling of CO2 has not occurred. If it had, it would be about 560 ppm. It's not.

Dearest Leo

Lindzen has apologisedfor his ... um, er, pardon ... "error".

http://tinyurl.com/Lindzen-apologises

Now, will you withdraw your vacuous assertions ... even apologise like Lindzen?

Let me guess ... nope.

You will just change the playing field and repeat your tired-old-guff again and again.

In March 2008, the extent of year-round perennial sea ice eclipsed the 50-year record low set in March 2007, shrinking by 386,100 square miles (one million square kilometers) -- an area the size of Texas and Arizona combined. Seasonal ice, which forms over the winter when seawater freezes, now occupies the space of the lost perennial ice. This younger ice is much saltier than its older counterpart because it has not had time to undergo processes that drain its sea salts. It also contains more frost flowers -- clumps of ice crystals up to four times saltier than ocean waters -- providing more salt sources to fuel bromine releases.

Nghiem said if sea ice continues to be dominated by younger saltier ice, and Arctic extreme cold spells occur more often, bromine explosions are likely to increase in the future.