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The people, not caucus, must decide : Comments

By Julie Bishop, published 23/2/2012

The Labor leadership has become utterly dysfunctional and now there is another attempt to replace a sitting PM without an election.

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This is easy, one needn't even read the article, just the headline, to know exactly what Julie Bishop's on about--though I very much doubt she wrote it.
There are only about half a dozen political scripts and we all know how this one goes.
Sadly it really does look like Labor's done itself irreparable damage, not once but twice. But if we go to the polls now we'll be stuck with Abbott for sure, and that should be avoided at all costs--I hope the independents are thinking the same way.

Gillard will probably prevail Monday but I doubt the polls will change and Rudd, I suspect, will prevail in the next few months. And there is a chance he can turn things around in the eighteen months or so that remain.
If there is such a trend, and it wouldn't take much because Abbott's on the nose too, then Abbott will be successfully challenged by Turnbull and the Libs will be shown to be no more cohesive than Labor--and they're not.
And that will throw the contest wide open, though barring serious gaffs, Turnbull would win a majority for his party, I believe.
No Gillard means no Abbott, and that's why the Libs would love to go to the polls now.
I say we keep our hung parliament and let it play out as I think it will. Turnbull is the man to lead--what a shame he's in the wrong Party : (
Posted by Squeers, Thursday, 23 February 2012 4:32:40 PM
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Turnbull is a Globalist just like Bob Brown who both believe in a world Govt which believes it will save the planet by putting all man kind in slavery.

This is not about liberty or freedom for us.They are enslaving us under the lie of Global Warming which has now morphed into "Climate Change."

The climate has always changed and Turnbull wants the ETS/carbon tax so his banker friends can make even bigger profits.
Posted by Arjay, Thursday, 23 February 2012 5:18:19 PM
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Squeers,

Well, yes indeedy...does anybody think Turnbull reversed his decision to leave politics in order to play second fiddle to a middling pollie like Abbott? What's the bet he makes leadership rumblings of his own in the near future?

He'd win any election hands-down, as you say "barring serious gaffs".

Interesting times.
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 23 February 2012 6:07:09 PM
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Tony Abbott is a way more desirable alternative to Gillard then Rudd. With Abbott we have hope that he'll perform better than the proven failure that is Rudd.
Posted by individual, Thursday, 23 February 2012 6:15:34 PM
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If there is one thing that stands out in the comments is the mad monk, one vote Tony (double ya) Abbott and his imaginary friend aren’t that popular. The thought of him at the helm of a majority government is frightening. Rudd also has and imaginary friend (same one I think), but I get the impression that he may be subservient to Rudd.

I believe the people (as much as they can) did decide although that decision is not proportional. I agree with James O'Neill’s comments. The majority (not all) of our parliament consists of parasites that have no practical experience or concept of what it’s like to produce something of real substance. Most of them are well healed and as a consequence are able to purchase the time required to gain office. Until we have a system that can elect dope smoking Rastafarian (or equivalent) as was the case in NZ, we will be stuck with the non representative corporate parties.

What we have now is as good as it gets. No one has a majority and there is discussion and compromise. No one gets it all their own way.
The people have decided. You have another year and a half to wait.

In Queensland, wouldn’t it be great if Campbell Newman (mini me) didn’t get elected. The LNP got the most seats, but not a majority. A few independents and a couple of Katter’s mob made up the balance. Hang them!
Posted by Producer, Thursday, 23 February 2012 6:22:27 PM
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Abbott is a against the Carbon Tax and one that one issue,I'll back him all the way to the next election.The CO2 lies will destroy what little sovereignity we have left.

The West lives in a totalitariarn state in which the bankers control both industry and our Govts.Bankers now control both Greece and Italy.How many more countries will they own under their counterfeiting ponzy scams?

The US Federal Reserve is a private group of banks based in Europe/Britian and they've created the GFC for their own advantage.It has now probably spun out of even their control and this is why they are pushing for war, ie to escape us and our growing awareness.

We have the same situation that existed after the Great Depression of 1933.War does not improve our economies.It makes us more indebted to the banks who have manipulated our pollies into conflict.War is good for the elites while the masses languish in poverty and pain.
Posted by Arjay, Thursday, 23 February 2012 6:44:36 PM
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