"anyone who wants to support liberal abortion laws simply does not want to face simple facts. It is killing a young child in no uncertain terms."
Posted by runner, Friday, 17 February 2012 5:55:18 PM

"liberal" abortion laws? As opposed to 'illiberal abortion laws' or 'illiberal anti-abortion laws'?

What simple facts? Like the simple fact it is actually Not a 'young child'?? Like the fact a foetus is simply a collection of evolving stem cells? All those cells still developing into body systems?

Jon J,
Yes, well unemotional or facts based science could be brought into it, but then I've never known a feminist to rely much on science or facts.

Normally they want to rely upon emotional manipulation, deceit, advocacy research, lies, propaganda, distortion of information, misinformation, bigotry and selective reporting of information.

It is an interesting cat-fight now occurring between feminists.

vanna,

"It is an interesting cat fight now between feminists."

Which tells us more about your depth of perception than it does about the issue at hand.

Tankard Reist's supporters have consistently endeavoured to skew this debate into one which examines who can or cannot call themselves a "feminist".

We wouldn't be having this discussion at all if Jennifer Wilson hadn't gone public with the threats of defamation from MTR (letters she was advised were "not for publication" by MTR's legal representation).

Forrest Gumpp comments on the deliberate deviation from the issue here:
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=13244&page=0#229219

dream on McReal the usual pseudo science used to block one's conscience. Try looking through a microscope but then again that would destroy the myth you want to believe.

Poriot,
There has been an attack on Christianity by various feminists going back decades, because Christian groups have so often opposed abortion.

This particular cat-fight is probably a localised continuation of that long-term attack and denigration of Christianity.

It becomes interesting because both opposing parties have called themselves feminists.

BTW. Some of my definition of what constitutes feminism is “emotional manipulation, deceit, advocacy research, lies, propaganda, distortion of information, misinformation, bigotry and selective reporting of information”

@runner,

Your continuous swipes without any explanation except that you are a servant to bronze-age mythology as it is interpreted today largely by a nonsensical pseudo absolutist ideology, have no effect on rational people.

Here are a few simple questions for you.

Should all abortions be illegal?

Or, should there be exceptions if the mother’s life is threatened by proceeding with the pregnancy?

For abortions you consider should be illegal, what is the crime? (That is, is it premeditated murder?)

The law already implements lengthy prison terms up to the death penalty for murder, should the sentence be the same for abortion? (If not, why not)

Should the woman who has the abortion and the doctor who performs the abortion be prosecuted for murder?

Should any other staff present also be charged with aiding in murder?

I look forward to your answers although I expect considerable squirming.

David