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Stack it high, sell it cheap : Comments

By Chris Ennis, published 10/2/2012

The sad story behind $1 a litre milk and 80 cent iceberg lettuce.

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Yabby,

I think the point about Chris’s ideology is that s/he bemoans everything you applaud about Coles, Woolies et al.

Supply chain efficiency, low margins, cheap and abundant food, competition etc are the exact opposite of the organic movement’s ideology of low production, high costs, the priority of producers’ interests over consumers or those who add value along the chain, and purchasing decision based on moral vanity.

After all, the opposite of “stack it high, sell it cheap” is “produce very little and sell it dear”. For our own good, of course
Posted by Rhian, Friday, 10 February 2012 3:50:12 PM
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'start buying the meat, milk and produce we know is grown humanely, sustainably and bought at a fair price from a local retailer. '

That's the crux of the problem. How could you possibly believe anyone who claims how their meat and milk and eggs are attained.

Even if you had a society of inner-city living middle and upper-class people who can easily afford to purchase at higher prices on environmental and moral grounds, you have to have some proof that the claims of the producers are accurate. Nobody wants to be made a mug. That means regulation, and auditing, and independent governmnet authorities that would even more vastly increase the cost of food and taxes.

This extra money spent on food and regulating the food and import industries (How do you check up on overseas imports?) would take money away from other areas of the economy and/or public services. I suppose we could switch from our normal jobs to this new food regulation industry.

But I'd rather not really. I put people before animals, and that ethos has always served me well. I figure if a shark comes up to me in the ocean, I am unlikely to persuade him not to eat me on humanitarian and environmental grounds.

'produce very little and sell it dear'

Sounds like a good model!
Posted by Houellebecq, Friday, 10 February 2012 5:07:24 PM
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The problem stems from people life styles which have increased their commitments I've the past decade or so.

20 years ago, only the needed had a mobile phone, now, you would be luck to find a handful of people who don't have oe and, every one you see comes wit a monthly bill.

You see retail spending comes soley from disposable income, so once the must pay bills are paid, people shop with what's left.

Also, food is o e of the last options where people can save money.

As all must pay expenses increase, as they hav, the food budget gets squeezed, the result being shoppers are now bargain hunters, something that plays directly into the hands of the big two.

The next phase, if nothing changes, will be the collapse of many shopping centers, as the majority of small retailers are on the verg of collapse, as they simply can not compete any more.
Posted by rehctub, Sunday, 12 February 2012 11:10:50 AM
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The article takes perceptions of ‘unfair’, notably payments to dairy farmers, and mixes in the author’s self interest.

1. Evidence is there is no nutritional benefit from organic food.
2. There are 7 standards from certifiers defining organic; no one is in a position to specify what organic means.
3. Integrity is not assured and buyers know this.
4. UK low end supermarket, TESCO, abandoned its green labelling as customers saw it as a thin attempt to raise prices artificially.

No one can picture what an organic means in practice. Images of chickens scratching in green grass and laying where they will make good sentiment but will neither meet supply nor provide profit – and without profit farms fail.

Future events will be determined by food security. Ennis’ barrow and populist sentiment won’t change that.

Departments of Agriculture once developed practices and took what practices were available to producers, assessed them and gave independent advice and demonstrations of what worked. Commercial players making a dollar will always sell preferred products. Departments provided advice that showed there was always other ways to “skin the cat”.

Across Australia Departments have been systematically closed. NSW’s Primary Industries has maintained some sense of service, but with a DG in place of the super department and a new DDG within that area being both ‘ball breakers’ the demise of this last vestige of public policy interest in Agriculture is certain, it will be reduced to providing policy advice to the Minister and poorly executed regulatory activity.

I hold Coles and Woolworths to be stand over merchants to be despised. But given both use power to get what they want I recognise producers are unwilling and incapable to do what is required to gain power over both companies and make them squeal. We live in a country which is a collection of individuals seeking self gratification; not a society based on co-operation to mutual benefit.
Posted by Cronus, Thursday, 16 February 2012 12:23:57 PM
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Great article, absolutely agree with what you have said. The benefits of buying local organic food is two-fold, it promotes the development of sustainable farms and it is so much healthier for you to eat organically grown food.
I think the mindset of many is that they would rather eat a pile of bad food than a small amount of good quality, nutritious food.
Its good to see that young kids are being educated on where their food comes from now-days and I think this will be part of a positive change in the future. Thanks, Sarah.
Posted by SarahH, Saturday, 3 March 2012 9:49:57 AM
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