Well Alan, thanks for giving us a snapshot of just why Europe is collapsing, if of course your take on their love of Rudd is not a bit or rosy glasses imagination. If they in particular really admire his economic acumen, that is a damn good reason to reexamine what ever he's done. If Europe approve it must be wrong.

If they really admire useless gestures, no wonder they are suffering fatal decline. As a headline here said of his signing Kyoto, "Only the Ozzies would climb onto a sinking ship.

Then we had the apology, god! Please point out one single aboriginal, other than those on the aboriginal industry gravy train, who is even in the slightest way, better off.

As for addressing the Chinese in a language they can understand, most Ozzies felt their skin crawl in shame when the fool gave that kitsch demeaning display. The smug grin as he sprouted mandarin was sickening.

It is possible that my take on the incompetence of Europe from this distance is wrong, but let me assure it could not be as wrong as your take on Kevie from a similar distance. His trashing of a carefully built up surplus was criminal, & merely boosted inflation, rather than help the economy. His running up of a huge debt after that deserves prosecution.

Perhaps you could find a place for him over there, it would save us a lot of pain.

Hasbeen. do you mind saying I and not WE. Remember this is your opinion.

Alan Austin,

Try and answer these questions.

Why is it, given your rosy view of Australia's position, that the Labor Government is about to undergo another huge upheaveal and swap leaders?

Is it that we residents in Australia are having our opinions noticed by panicked Labour Members, and that you overseas non-resident participants can only show you don't know what you are talking about?

It must be stunning for you that the vast majority of Australians ignore your analysis and hold their own views? You must think most of us misguided and in need of re-education ... along European lines ... eh?

Nutter you are somewhat premature with your leadership predictions. Do not worry your self with what abbott says. He is a desperate man, and not in his right mind.

Your right 579, I should have said you.

Believe me I only saw a few seconds of the disgusting fool making his apology.

Just the sight of him on TV makes me sick on the stomach. I have become like greased lightning with the remote, changing channels when ever he appears.

TV channels please note. Thousands of real people do the same. The quickest way to reduce your ratings are to put that man, or his replacement on the screen.

579

Are you in denial?

It's not abbott who is talking about leadership change in the Labor Party.

It's the whole bloody media ... lefties and all. Haven't you read the metropolitan majors or watched the eletronic media?

The only desparates anywhere in sight are the panicked Labor Members?

Abbotts not desperate, he knows he's the next non-labor pm and when he is elected he'll have the record as a fantastically effective opposition leader who has despatched 3 Labor PM's.