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Left's profitable Pauline conversion? : Comments

By Daniel Kogoy, published 19/1/2012

Why the left should be supporting Ron Paul's bid to become the Republican Presidential candidate.

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Applied Rand-libertarian politics 101.

http://www.theobjectivestandard.com/exploit-the-earth-or-die.asp

Pure parasitism.

Suck the life out of and therefore inevitably trash the biosphere within which we are completely entangled in a vast complex web of mutual co-dependent relationships. Upon which we are completely dependent for our health and well-being.

Not good for Black Ducks or any living-breathing biological beings, including humans.
Posted by Daffy Duck, Thursday, 19 January 2012 9:50:44 AM
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The killing of large numbers of people by US forces would not stop under Paul. The US military would be curbed but replaced by private armies hired by the corporations and serving corporate interests. This would be in accordance with Paul's philosophy which would remove government restrictions on violations of human rights and government restrictions on corporate activity. There is already a precedent for this in the private security forces in Iraq. There is at the moment some control and oversight on the activities of the US armed forces. Replacement of these forces by private corporate funded armies would eliminate those controls.
Posted by david f, Thursday, 19 January 2012 9:51:42 AM
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Jennifer, you say
"it is great to read something from a Greens councillor that shows an understanding of Libertarian philosophy and how it is fundamentally different from that of the conservatives Posted by Jennifer, Thursday, 19 January 2012 9:05:00 AM

My question: How does a "Ron Paul libertarian" avoid becoming a useful idiot, for the corporate interests that rule America and are doing their best to rule Australia?

Myself, I'm very disappointed to read a puff piece for Ron Paul, written by a "Greens councillor" from anywhere. I would rather read an apologia for Pauline Hanson - at least she served honest flake.

Here is Ron Paul on political economy:

"The Ludwig von Mises Institute (LVMI): [www.mises.org]

Within our Nation stands one center of learning that is a cornerstone of liberty for the entire world. In 1982, Llewellyn H. Rockwell, Jr., former chief of staff for Congressman Paul, founded the Ludwig von Mises Institute, now the center of the Austrian School of economics, in honor of its namesake. Mises' theory of economics confirmed that our forefathers, Bastiat, and others were correct in believing that Liberty is the only possible system under which man can live successfully. The alternatives lead to chaos, plunder, and destruction. Free trade and honest money, being gold and silver coin, is the foundation of civilization under the laws of nature and nature's God.

The Institute is not government-funded, but exists by support of the people. For those mis-educated in government schools, when you listen to their audio tapes such as "Money, Banking, and The New World Order," or read such Institute publications as "The Free Market," you will know the truth for the first time.

If you have witnessed Ron Paul's "Texas Straight Talk," then you should be ready to visit the LVMI web site. Dr. Paul, incidentally, has served as the Institute's Distinguished Counselor since its founding."

Well, Jennifer?

Link to: [www.mises.org]
Posted by Sir Vivor, Thursday, 19 January 2012 10:00:41 AM
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Hi Sir V. ,

I went to a Mises seminar in Sydney recently put on by Benjamin Marks from www.economics.org.au .

The speakers had no time for "corporate interests" and were particularly critical of bankers - including central bankers and fiat money.
Posted by Jennifer, Thursday, 19 January 2012 10:17:49 AM
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Well, Jennifer, if you are agreeable to the proposition, then we can agree to disagree.

Did you see Daniel K. at Benjamin Marks' Seminar?
Posted by Sir Vivor, Thursday, 19 January 2012 10:35:30 AM
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Lol, progressives supporting Ron Paul. The only reason progressives have any standing at all is because leftist politicians take tax payers money and give it to planned parenthood, NPR, marriage equality events, tolerance conferences, medicare, etc. Ron Paul's desired tax rate is 0%, take away the taxes from the progressives and their entire edifice is swept away overnight. Under pure libertarianism gays could marry and adopt, for example, but they will be stripped of any government support (programs, tax cash) so the exercise will not stand up to our natural human boundaries. Furthermore, female dominated public sector jobs will be the first to go as tax revenue is slashed, generally these jobs don't produce things and are unnecessary in a libertarian society.

Libertarianism will also lead to extreme social conservativism because single parent families will be left to their own devices, no handouts - the only choice will be for citizens to form large families that look out for eachother, and with a mother and father, any other arrangement is impractical in a libertarian society.
Posted by progressive pat, Thursday, 19 January 2012 10:52:42 AM
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