Thanks spindoc. Welcome back.

BTW our CSIRO was quick to jump on this bandwagon. It launched a CarbonKids schools pilot program in August 2009 and a Climate Change kit (retail price $31.50) - designed for “ages 10 and up”. Students from 26 schools (ACT, WA, NSW)) were involved in activities for “tackling climate change”, reducing carbon footprints and “instilling behavioural changes in their families, friends and the broader community.” Three quarters (2,826) were from primary schools.

An evaluation report was released last year. CarbonKids, it concluded, was a “pedagogically relevant” program that “successfully enhances teaching and learning that contributes to the core business of schools in achieving quality student outcomes.”

http://www.csiro.au/en/Portals/Education/Teachers/Classroom-activities/CarbonKids/~/media/CSIROau/Corporate%20Units/Education/CK_EvalFinalReport_EE_pdf%20Standard.pdf

But how did teachers make sure the kids “valued evidence”, were able “to draw evidence-based conclusions and make informed decisions in discussing strategies for addressing carbon reduction and climate change” (outcome 4), when they presumably had little choice but to promote the CSIRO’s alarmist narrative?

Eg: “Savas” is a Forrest Primary School Year 4 student. According to the report, he knows “what it means to be a CarbonKid” and understands “how carbon is related to energy and the implications of energy use for climate change.”

There's an Authentic Student Statement (my words)from him in it, with a border design motif of black human footprints. He is, he writes, “a carbon kid, witch (sic) means I try to reduce my carbon footprint.”

He sounds eco-smart; does not leave water running while cleaning teeth, plants trees, buys energy efficient appliances, and so on.

Despite all the misinfo thrown at him, his last sentence refers to carbon dioxide (not "carbon"): “If we had no carbon dioxide, we wouldn’t exist!” BRAVO!

Perhaps we have a genuinely curious kid, a free thinker here? But will he and all the other young minds emerge unscathed from an Orwellian program the CSIRO seems determined to roll-out on a national scale at some stage?

Alice

"The issue is the indoctrination of children in a highly contentious and divisive public debate. Is anyone going there?"

Yes, this mob ...

http://tinyurl.com/galileo-wannabes

who just last month bought 300 copies of Ian Plimer's "How To Get Expelled From School" and offered them to Australian schools for free.

One of your mates said you had some science bonmot, but all I've seen from you is half-baked links to the usual suspects, Skeptical Science and Tamino, plus the standard ad homs.

Say something sciency please, if for no other reason then to please your supporters.

As for dealing with children, as I have posted before, the pro-AGW side have no shame:

http://theclimatescepticsparty.blogspot.com/2011/09/kids.html

You're clutching at straws, bonmot. Donating books to school libraries is a long way from indoctrination, because school libraries are generally not well utilised for the purpose for which they were intended: the provision of reading material. Aside from nerds seeking the librarian's watchful protection from playground bullies, the only way to get a kid inside one is to force him in there. The chances of actually getting them to read a book once inside are so infitesimally tiny that winning the lottery seems highly probable by comparison.

The Climate Sceptics Blog - the 'look at me' (spam) site.

"Say something sciency please..."

Anthony Cox wouldn't understand.

Ok, thanks Anton - I understand now. Plimer and the Galileo Movement were/are just playing games for the media.

Hoodathunkthat?