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COP17: Durban delusions : Comments

By Michael Kile, published 12/12/2011

Deeper scrutiny of the weird world of international climate politics is long overdue.

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GrahamY says;
“Jo Nova's real name is Joanne Codling - she took Nova as a stage name.

WilliamS says;
“All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts…”

I say whether she goes by Nova, Codling or Mrs David Evans doesn't really matter:

http://theclimatescepticsparty.blogspot.com/2011/04/carbon-tax-will-mean-dark-days-for.html

She still is pushing the common ideological agenda.

GrahamY says;
“When you (bonmot) man up and tell us your real identity (sic)”

Poirot says;
“Why do you impugn the integrity of posters who choose to post under a pseudonym? It's your site and you provide that particular mechanism.”

Ma amie, given the editor impugns my ‘manhood’ (either way) I am not really surprised.

Besides, this has all gone on before http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4851

“Considering that most on OLO use a pseudonym, I wonder what that says in general”

It says dear Poirot that OLO would sink without the non de plume http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/user.asp

(or stage name, or tag, or alias, or whatever) – methinks the editor is and will be shooting his own foot.

One who goes by the tag ‘Hasbeen’ tries to get back to topic by saying;

“Copenhagen through to Durban, it's almost enough to make me believe in god, or santa claus”.

Not me, the Lord Father Christmas http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=12997 can’t even synchronise his own beliefs:

http://www.youtube.com/user/potholer54#p/a/u/1/9K74fzNAUq4

Btw Hasbeen, did you manage to find that paper that you said says;

>> excess CO2 is coming not from the the developed world <<
Posted by bonmot, Wednesday, 14 December 2011 6:22:44 AM
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You are a disingenuous twit bonmot.

I told you where to find the link, but you don't want to know. Yes I know it would be painful for you to have to look at the facts, so don't bother.

Obviously you are nothing but an apologist for the warmist con men, & not worth the time we waste on you.

I do get sick of silly little men on the take, & their fellow travelers.
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 14 December 2011 7:38:02 AM
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Ummm ... Hasbeen, you said you are a scientist.

So, please tell me what "paper" ... not what anti-global warming blog-site you frequent.

Tell you what, just tell me who authored it (Hint: perhaps JoNova/Codling/Evans is not the author) and which journal published it so I can look myself.
Posted by bonmot, Wednesday, 14 December 2011 7:53:46 AM
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Just too hard for you to man up, eh Poirot.

If this is how you carry on when you are so obviously caught out being in error I can delight in imagining your terror at all the hard evidence coming to hand that is overwhelmingly debunking all the big lies of global warming.

You'll be catatonic and requiring major medical intervention when it finally dawns on you that you are holding an incorrect belief.

On maybe you'll just morph into another deranged denier.
Posted by imajulianutter, Wednesday, 14 December 2011 9:07:04 AM
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imajulianutter,

I'm sure you're charming when you're not spitting venom or adopting a pose of moral indignation.

I'm fascinated by your call for me to "man up". Nothing like a good ol' chest thumping in someone's direction, I suppose.
Excuse me if I don't join you. Poirot always was a bit of a dandy, and he prefers to be guided by his little grey cells rather than his gender-based insecurities.

Just thought I'd repost this:
http://www.aip.org/history/climate/cycles.htm

A good history of paleo-climatology
Posted by Poirot, Wednesday, 14 December 2011 10:55:27 AM
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Reasonable history Poirot, except when it gets to the end and says that the ice cores prove CO2 increases temperature. What one in fact sees in the ice cores is that temperature decreases while CO2 is still increasing. That's a pretty ineffectual amplification. It also provides no explanation for the warming since the Dalton minimum. An example of confirmation bias at work.

In fact, in recent peer reviewed work Kahan and Peters http://www.culturalcognition.net/projects/mechanisms-of-cultural-cognition.html actually find that the smarter you are the better you are at self-deception and this web reference would appear to be an example of it.
Posted by GrahamY, Wednesday, 14 December 2011 1:39:07 PM
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