Hi Raycom,
Sorry, your confidence is sadly misplaced as I'm unable to figure out what organisation you're referring to.
If you are referring to the UN or a UN body, then I have another question.
How can it be, when the US despises the UN and regularly fails to pay its UN dues, that the UN could influence the US Joint Chiefs to cooperate with their scam?
That, on the face of it would be impossible.
So, if it cannot be the UN you're referring to, then I'm at a loss.
Sorry to be so obtuse.
Cheers,
Anthony
http://www.observationpoint.com.au

Anthonyve

Your response is surprising. Surely, you would have heard of the IPCC, which is the abbreviation for Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

Hi Raycom,
Okay, got it.
I discounted IPCC as I understood it to be a UN body and therefore hardly likely to be in a position to influence many key bodies who support AGW, especially, as I mentioned earlier the US Joint Chiefs, who are taking AGW very seriously, even though COngress is not.
I have no doubt that the US, and other militaries use IPCC data and are in regular close communication with panel members.
In any case, that the IPCC could either scam, trick or coerse these other bodies into participating in a global deceipt, I would say is impossible.
I give particular credence to what the US military is doing because they are going ahead and planning for resource driven conflicts as a result of Global Warming even though Congress hardly acknowledges that it is happening.
Also, the US military is beginning to come under tighter budgetary constraints than has been the case over the past couple of decades yet is still spending vast amounts on anti global warming technologies.
So, they seem to take it pretty seriously, even if their government does not.
Okay, as a twenty year veteran I admit to being biased, but I tend to trust generals more than I trust politicians.
Cheers,
Anthony
http://www.observationpoint.com.au

The IPCC gets info from NASA, So go straight to the butcher instead of listening to the block. Climate nasa.gov/evidence. IPCC put in additions that they think they read. NASA puts it in silly mans language. Climate change is real and ongoing, and gaining pace like never before. Skeptics trivialize saying .9c degree rise won't do any thing. well it has as we can see in arctic ice melt. And gaining pace. Carbon particles is the culprit, coal and oil.

HI 579,
I am in complete agreement.
Just looking at the reduction in polar ice caps this past summer is enough to be convincing to say nothing of the acidification going on in our oceans.
What I'm trying to understand is how this huge conspiracy that many of these comments refer to is supposed to work.
Raycom and others appear to be positing that just about every scientific body along with all of the world's meteorlogical establishments along with NASA and most of the world's militaries including the US Joint Chiefs have either gotten together to trick us mere mortals or they're all incompetent.
It seems to me to be frankly an absurd proposition but these folk evidently are thoroughly convinced.
To suggest that all these people and organisations are incompetent is inconceivable, so I would just like to know how they think a conspiracy like that could be organised.
And, even more difficult, how is being kept a secret.
Cheers,
Anthony
http://www.observationpoint.com.au

Anthonyve:

I am not one of the conspiracy-mongers you refer to, and I know no-one of any consequence who is. It is all much more complicated than that. There is so much odd stuff in what you say (let alone 529) that I all I can suggest is that you visit a website like 'Climate etc.' which has received several million visits since it was set up fifteen months ago. There are three or four new threads each week, and it offers a continuing seminar in the science and politics of 'climate change'. Warmists and sceptics debate with each other there, and the standard is often very high. Sometimes it is not, I would have to agree, and you encounter the kind of name-calling that too often goes on here. But give it a go. I have learned a great deal from going there. It is balanced and generally polite.