just on the whole Green Business model, and this goes for Feed-in Tariffs as well ..

Any business that needs a subsidy, is not in business per se, they are employed by the government at a particular rate, and when that employment at that rate drops, or is reduced or ceases, then that part of the business dependent on that, ceases to exist.

Which is why all the Green jobs schemes, here, Spain the US, Germany all vanish the moment the subsidy disappears.

They are non jobs, welfare by another name.

Just as feed-in tariffs are welfare .. in the same way a levy is a tax.

This current blind chanting that green jobs are the future, and yet all the green jobs are really welfare - nothing more.

Careful of the info you get here. Spain has had an average of 14.2% unemployment since 1983. They have 9 neuclear power plants and 2 parabolic steam generators producing alt energy. Spain is a leading producer of alt energy, which is contracted all around the world. The latest being built in Dubai.

Gee James I hope that's not climate science you're studding, for your sake, that is going to have such a dirty name in a year or two, you'd be lucky to score a job as a street sweeper.

Oh, & I wouldn't suggest environmental science either. In case you didn't know, that's the one where they put the math challenged ones, those who need their shoes off to count past ten. They have filled the one per department establishment for those in most councils now, so not good prospects there either.

If it is some brand of science that includes some math, go find your tutor, you must have misunderstood some lectures. No one with much more than junior high math could fall for this climate scam.

You may have plans for a bureaucratic career, & hope this rip off tax will keep the government coffers full. I hope not, for your sake, that might be a bad bet too mate.

Lets just stick to facts shall we?

Spains Green Job Disaster. University study.
http://www.juandemariana.org/pdf/090327-employment-public-aid-renewable.pdf

Spain's Unemployment rate : 8% in 2007, 21.6 % now.
http://www.google.com.au/publicdata/explore?ds=z8o7pt6rd5uqa6_&met_y=unemployment_rate&idim=country:es&fdim_y=seasonality:sa&dl=en&hl=en&q=spain%27s+unemployment+rate#ctype=l&strail=false&bcs=d&nselm=h&met_y=unemployment_rate&fdim_y=seasonality:sa&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=country_group&idim=country:es&ifdim=country_group&hl=en&dl=en

Attman nice one .. what Amicus said 579!

The government churns out a constant drone of propaganda on this stuff, and wonders why it has a trust problem with the community.(some people believe it and regurgitate the lies, some go and look it up for themselves)

579, where do you get this 14.2% average unemployment since 1982? More eco BS, and why 1982? This is typical of the cherry picked statistical analysis of the warming belief.

Right now it is 22.6% and that is really a disaster.

Spain is a basket case, the installations they get overseas, are yet more welfare jobs from people like our government who listen to scientific advisers with something to gain by promoting such. They probably get some kind of UN special Elephant stamp, or a job on the IPCC or something.

I struggle to trust anyone or anything in the warmist camp any more. I read some things that are interesting, then find things are cherry picked, skewed, have carefully chosen scales, dodgy timeframes, colluding to suppress papers that question other work, bullying in the scientific workplace, if the evidence is so clear, why so much trickery?

Surely by now, with all the countless billions spent, it would be beyond question.

Unless of course, the climate scientists are just not very knowledgeable about climate, which is really the only valid answer, as much as they claim to be all over it, they clearly are not and climate is way more complex than they can imagine - we're intellectual climate science pygmies and have no idea what is going on.

Endless stupid guesses followed up by backfilling is not science.

I do not think your "the myth that renewable energy cannot provide continuous power" link means what you think it means, unless you believe no electricity in winter is acceptable.