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Focus on 'prevention' abusing kids : Comments

By Jeremy Sammut, published 9/11/2011

For many children, statutory intervention and removal from the family home comes far too late.

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“some of our most vulnerable children come from indigenous families, and these kids are the
least likely to have early interventions simply because of the old 'stolen generation' mentality”

Suseonline, it is more than the “mentality” it is called the “Aboriginal Victim Industry” (AVI )
many are employed in this area, many seeking continuation of,
with no real answers other than this continuous and eternal “blame game”.

Meanwhile, back at the old ranch, the children continue to suffer.

Arthur Bell. aka, bully.
Posted by bully, Thursday, 10 November 2011 7:58:45 AM
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“some of our most vulnerable children come from indigenous families, and these kids
are the least likely to have early interventions simply because of the old 'stolen generation' mentality”

Suseonline, it is more than the “mentality” it is called the “Aboriginal Victim Industry” (AVI )
many are employed in this area, many seeking continuation of,
with no real answers other than this continuous and eternal “blame game”.

Meanwhile, back at the old ranch, the children continue to suffer.

Arthur Bell. aka, bully.
Posted by bully, Thursday, 10 November 2011 8:57:54 AM
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Diver Dan - I agree 100%

As per my earlier comment "There may well be opportunities within the children's extended family for adoption. If so - very good. If not - the 'open market'" - Grandparents are often best placed and have the childs best interest at heart. In such cases they should have first call, but the transfer of parental rights needs be absolute and permanent. Ditto for other close family - Aunts, Uncles, older siblings - provided they meet requirements. Obviously there are cases where grandparents and other extended family are part of the problem

Suzeonline - Abused infants and toddlers under 3 years are most suited to adoption. Best from 0 - 12 months. The 'damage' from adoption - even into a family completely removed is absolutely minimal compared to what many children have endured and continue to suffer. Adoption needs to be open and the child to have information about biological family available to them at appropriate age. Older children are a tougher nut due to the damage done, but then again permanent removal to a safe 'forever' foster or adoptive home is going to give them the better chance of physical and mental health along with life success. Children over the age of 10 with strong views on where they wished to be would likely need consideration. On indigenous children - 100% agreement. The fact many are left in situations where any other child would be removed is testament to the absurdity, immorality and stupidity of politically correct policy and the brain dead bureaucrats who administer it
Posted by divine_msn, Thursday, 10 November 2011 1:40:39 PM
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...I wait with “bated breath” for the next “DOCS” absurdity to splash across the headlines!
Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 10 November 2011 6:16:57 PM
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Runner blames the dreaded 'secularists' for all child abuse.
Runner, as you well know, child abuse in all it's forms has been around long before the word 'secularist' was even thought of.
And we all know that some God-believers are not immune from such practices.
Posted by Suseonline, Friday, 11 November 2011 12:48:02 AM
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Divine-msm:

# Obviously there are cases where grandparents and other extended family are part of the problem #

...Part of the problem for who must be asked of course! My experience tells me, grandparents to the abused children, are in fact parents to the abusers! Where this all goes “belly-up” in the courts is at the point of conflict between the parents (grandparents of the abused child), and their abusive siblings (Parents of the abused children)!
With “family preservation” as the priority default, the courts (read DOCS recommendation) will lean towards the authority of the parents of the abused child to determine whether or not to support intervention by the grandparents.

...Too often spirited antagonism of the abusing parent rules against the welfare of the abused child and the abusive parent will choose foster care first as priority, blocking attempts by the natural grandparents to assist.

...Also; a criminal record attached to a grandparent should not exclude their rights of natural merit to assist the child automatically as it does, but should be meritorious and based on current history. This point becomes “official” abuse in itself to both the child and the grandparents, all too often!
Posted by diver dan, Friday, 11 November 2011 3:11:30 PM
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