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Does a referendum offer ‘us’ another chance to reconcile with ‘them’? : Comments

By Tom Clark and Melissa Walsh, published 7/11/2011

Our research suggests non-Aboriginal Australians consistently affirm a need for reconciliation that is not diminished by their differences of opinion about what forms it should take.

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Squeers, you say you are anti Racist, you even admit that you're anti White, my thesis is proven, anti Racist means anti White.
White people are never victims of "Racism", they're victimised daily by institutional Anti Racism, which is nothing more than a code for anti White.

Here we go again, "Rednecks".
So the self appointed spokespeople on all things racial once again want to deny a voice or political representation to an entire class of people.
I'll let you in on a little secret, Anti Whites are the only tiny hate filled minority in this country and you are viewed with utter contempt by normal White men and Women.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 1:28:21 PM
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Jay,

ROFLMAO. Worst logic ever.

THIS is how to formulate a proper argument:

(1) If anti-racist is fully synonymous with anti-white as you claim it to be, it follows logically that racist is fully synonymous with white, unless the prefix 'anti' assumes different meanings.

(2) I have already stated I am anti-racist.

(3) I have also already stated that I am white.

(4) Hence, I am racist (from (1) and (3)).

Therefore: I simultaneously anti-racist and racist (from (2) and (4)).

This is a textbook reductio ad impossible, and it means that your premises are flawed.
Posted by The Acolyte Rizla, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 2:07:48 PM
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Squeers one of the main complaint about aboriginals is about their bludging. Most ozzies don't like bludgers.

This must be increasing as do gooders & academics among some others are encouraging the trait of victimhood among far too much of the population.

Now I don't like bludging aboriginals, but I dislike them no more than bludging plumbers, bludging electricians, bludging public servants, or a big one, bludging dole bludgers.

Of course, in some instances people can belong to two groups of bludgers, so can be disliked in duplicate.

Still the most despised bludger in my book is the bludging academic. I'm sure you know the type. Research projects chosen not only for their likelihood to receive funding, but to take little effort, or time of the researcher.

Here's an interesting project for you. Why not research how much time the average academic spends actually earning the money they receive from the tax payer.

Should have no trouble getting a grant for such an interesting topic.

Then try a referendum on weather Ozzies want quite as many academics as we currently fund. Now that would be a referendum worth funding.
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 2:42:43 PM
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This poem by Oodgeroo Noonuccal is on a poster outside a cafe in Brunswick, I pass it every day on the way to work:

"I could tell you of heartbreak, hatred blind, I could tell you of crimes that shame mankind, Of brutal wrong and deeds malign, Of rape and murder, son of mine;
But I'll tell instead of brave and fine When lives of black and white entwine And men in brotherhood combine-- This I would tell you, son of mine." Son of Mine, 1960
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 2:57:33 PM
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Hasbeen, you're quite wrong:

"Why not research how much time the average academic spends actually earning the money they receive from the tax payer.

Should have no trouble getting a grant for such an interesting topic."

It wouldn't get past the Ethics Committee of any university: its members would know full well that you don't question how your bread is buttered :)

But it's still a great idea, if someone could get private funding, and carry out the research in secret, i.e. totally 'unethically'.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 3:27:11 PM
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This is perhaps the most complex problem of our time, more than global warming, carbon taxes, oil, trade, the future of humanity....
The saving, rehabilitation and celebration of a unique and complex culture.

Why? Because it is in the "Australian" interest, because it is the right thing to do, because until a resolution is achieved there will remain a stain on our collective consciousness, and a stain on our history and our heritage as we go forward. The current problem of decline and disintegration is of relatively recent historical origin, and inaction or ineffective action can only be seen as exacerbation, or worse. Past errors and infamy cannot be undone; what is, is. But, current errors, inequality and disempowerment can, and must, be addressed, in the common interest, in the cause of humanity.

How? No easy answer here. Such a diverse and complex culture is hard to pin down, and finding the best and most effective means to facilitate its expression, development and empowerment is accordingly complex. A plethora of disparate views prevail. A consensus and a compromise are essential and inevitable. The status quo is retrograde.

Too late for a treaty, no chance of a separate state, no homeland other than the whole of Oz. Compromise? Dedicated research and development of cultural heritage education, a series of dedicated reserve sites and exclusive territories set aside for cultural expression and maintenance of significant cultural heritage and environmental values, facilitation of dignity and pride of place.

Pollyanna, impractical, over-the-top, missing the point? You tell me.
Posted by Saltpetre, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 3:31:37 PM
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