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Does a referendum offer ‘us’ another chance to reconcile with ‘them’? : Comments

By Tom Clark and Melissa Walsh, published 7/11/2011

Our research suggests non-Aboriginal Australians consistently affirm a need for reconciliation that is not diminished by their differences of opinion about what forms it should take.

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The whole senseless nature of using the term racism is that most people do not dislike people of a different race because of that difference. Most people who attract race orientated negative remarks are the ones who act in an offensive manner, manner which is not unique to race but to human beings.
Race is always brought in to avert the true case of a dispute. I know many whom I dislike on the grounds of their mannerism & they are of all races, my own included.
i know many white people whom I call unsavoury names but they can't bleat racism because I'm white. If said the same about the same mannerism in a person of a different race to mine than that would conveniently be misconstrued as racism.
So, if you're a decent person & you're white then from my point you're a decent person. Were you for argument's sake a black person then you'd be a decent black person from my viewpoint. If I am seen as decent white person then a black person would say I was a decent white bloke. Is that racism ?
Posted by individual, Friday, 11 November 2011 10:11:25 AM
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Rizla,
I'm still waiting, name the Racists please.

Joe,
We agree then? White Australians are an Ethnic group rather than a Race?
Since WW2 all attempts to unite "The White Race" have failed utterly, in fact the whole idea of "White Power" groups or "White Nationalism" that's the focus of Anti Racism is about 30 years out of date, most of it's apologists and adherents have either moved on or died.
The way of thinking in the "movement" actually started to change in the late 70's and since the turn of the century the "White Power" stream has pretty much dried up altogether, to the extent that anyone who pushes those views is treated with a great deal of suspicion and mistrust.
(at any rate it's now known that at least 90% of the North American "White Power" movement was a hoax,U.S or Soviet government intelligence operation or ADL sposored provocation)

Almost all of the pro White authors and broadcasters I listen to these days are talking about rejection of mainstream politics, regionalism,traditionalism and religious orthodoxy, in other words we simply "Live White" and promote White living by example, we don't try to convert, cajole or annoy people with our views.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Friday, 11 November 2011 7:11:40 PM
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Jay,

I'm still waiting for an answer to my question: So if you're anti-White you're not racist?
Posted by The Acolyte Rizla, Friday, 11 November 2011 10:53:41 PM
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Jay,
If you say something complimentary about a person of another race is that also racist ?
If that person doesn't get the gist of the compliment & turns around & abuses you with f ing white etc, is that racist ? If a white person & a person of another race are asked by a white publican to leave a pub & the non-white becomes abusive where does racism start then ?
Where does racism start when a white person goes to a bar after a day's work & asks if the bar stool is available & a non-white says no. Then the white grabs another bar stool but then the non-white says it's ok you can have this one (the one previously not available). Then the non-white says "so you don't want this bar stool because a black man was sitting on it ? Then the white says no because you said it wasn't available. Then the non-white says why do white people always cause so much trouble ? Meanwhile all his mates who hadn't worked in days are glaring at the white with utter distain. Where does racism start or end here ?
Posted by individual, Saturday, 12 November 2011 6:26:54 AM
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Ok Rizla,
Quid pro quo.
The answer is in the affirmative, I've posted that many times before.
White people are never victims of Racism, that's not the way the world works, we are however victimised by Anti Racism, which is a code word for anti White.
But wait, there's more.
The enemies of White people overwhelmingly look like us but have no loyalty to us, every ethnic group has traitors and sell outs, it's just that the White groups have more than the usual quota.
From a purely practical point of view you could quote Jesus and his policy of "Turn the other cheek" toward one's personal enemies.
At the level of social interaction Whites can turn the other cheek to fractious and bothersome non Whites because their transgressions are of a personal nature, they are personal enemies, they don't directly threaten our way of life or our existence as a people.
We shouldn't however turn the other cheek to the enemies of our community,our nation, our Church or our ethnic group, that's where the line has to be drawn and we have to fight back.

Now can you pleeeeaaase give me the names of "Australia's most Racist".
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Saturday, 12 November 2011 5:23:03 PM
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Individual,
White people are never victims of Racism.
Let's assume your Pub scenario gets out of hand and the White guy gets bashed and glassed by the immigrants, it happens all the time.
Now following my line of thinking he'd be able to forgive his attackers, turn the other cheek as it's a personal matter but the fact that those immigrant hoodlums were in the country at all is the fault of anti Racists.
What I want other White people to understand is that anti Racists don't care if immigrants rape or kill us because they want all White countries and ONLY White countries to submit to assimilation.
Anti Racists are guilty of facilitating, promoting,condoning and concealing crimes against White people, notably the crime of Genocide but more typically the everyday assaults, robberies and rapes.
That prompted my call for an apology for the outrageous levels of Aboriginal (and immigrant)crime against Whites, I'm not asking for the Aborigines to apologise, (I've forgiven the Aboriginals who bashed and robbed me in '95-'96)
I want the anti Racist politicians and "Human rights" activists to admit responsiblity for these crimes and apologise to White Australians for their failure to protect us.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Saturday, 12 November 2011 5:40:07 PM
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