Well said Briar Rose. I too hate the idea of abortion, and doubt I could ever have had one myself. However, I would still fight strongly for any other woman's right to have an abortion if she chooses.
Suseonline,
I agree with you on that. I know of a situation where the mother's life would have been made intolerable had she not had a termination. This woman was devastated to have to do it but she had to take into consideration the stupidity of bureaucrats who had power over her. Most terminations are on social grounds brought on by those with no connection to mother or child. That is the tragedy.

Wouldn't it by more helpful if people occasionally read the thread starters.
Then we wouldn't have to see people embarrass themselves with silly comments of the sort that the oxymoronically-named Progressive Pat came up with.
Dr Wilson was at pains to define the problem of a woman's safety as a legitimate issue, with her citing of the incident involving US politician Mitt Romney and a woman ( a mother with responsibilities to four or five other actually living children), forced to terminate due to potentially fatal bloodclots.
Progpat reduces this to only one possible explanation- that the woman was somehow hoodwinked by pro-choicers into a termination that actually had its roots in a medically diagnosed life threatening situation for this woman and mother..
It's murder to terminate yet not murder to see the woman and mother die just to save the foetus?
This is as insane as it is arrogant and callous, in its dismissal of am actually living woman's (person's) rights and needs.

Oh come on Suzieonline, I can't think of a worse criteria for a leader, than their public speaking ability, & I won prizes for it.

Just think what a disaster Obama has been, & about his only ability is rhetoric, a real southern preacher that one.

Then cast your mind back to WW11. Hitler was a real rabble rouser, & Churchill was also renowned. Hitler killed how many, & brought how much destruction on his people? Even with Hitler going a bit mad, Churchill would have lost the war, if his generals had not sat on his head, [or given him the whisky] on a regular basis.

I do admit I shudder a little at Abbott's public speaking, but with Turnbull you know that the BS is being spread with a shovel, just like Ruddy.

When it comes to intelligence, Keating was pretty bright, it's just a pity none of the smarts were ever used to help the ordinary Ozzie. I reckon we'd get even less look in when Turnbull was giving out the spoils.

I'll take stumble bum Abbott over any of the others offering any time.