Wow.

Where did that come from, Formersnag?

>>Squeers & Pericles, still waiting patiently, politely for plain simple answers to plain simple questions.<<

What questions?

I found this one, but for the life of me couldn't work out what it might refer to.

>>Which of these difficult concepts are you struggling with?<<

This was preceded by a couple of those spittle-encrusted random assertions for which you have become justly renowned:

>>ALL left wing politics is based on lies, deception & child abuse.
"there will be NO carbon tax under a government i lead" Juliar Dillhard.
"moving forwards" = moving backwards to Russia circa 1917.<<

If you consider those to merit any response at all, then I'm afraid you have chosen the wrong medium. Try scribbling them on the back of a door somewhere, or paint them on a banner that you can wave outside Flinders Street station.

Alternatively, ask a plain simple question, and I promise you a plain simple answer.

"So a proper Christian response from the church should perhaps come from a scientist… Such [a] response is adequately given by Jonathon Sarfati, PhD., F.M.,… " Dan S de Merengue.

A response, yes. Adequate, no.

Not with arguments like this:

"But it is not hard to notice that most of the scientific advances listed haven’t the slightest thing to do with evolution. Computers, cell phones, airplanes, and the moon landings certainly don’t! Indeed, they largely depended on the foundations laid by creationist scientists:
… Furthermore, these great scientists had precedents in the Middle Ages, often wrongly called the ‘Dark Ages’. Science historian Dr James Hannam writes: “Popular opinion, journalistic cliché and misinformed historians notwithstanding, recent research has shown that the Middle Ages were a period of enormous advances in science, technology and culture. The compass, paper, printing, stirrups and gunpowder all appeared in Western Europe between AD 500 and AD 1500.”"

Presumably the science and cultural contribution of Chinese Christian creationists?

"Sarfati was one scientist who offered to publicly debate Dawkins… Not surprisingly, the organisers of the convention were not interested in such a debate."

I agree with you. Not surprising at all.

So there we have it, Formersnag. You don't actually believe the
Christian story yourself, but you want it preached to others.
You believe in devils, it seems. Whatever gets you through the
night, Formersnag, but leave the rest of us, out of it.

The rest of your post was some incoherant mumbo jumbo about
roads. I don't have the foggiest idea what you are on about.

Time for a cup of tea and a nice lie down, Formersnag. Post
again when you actually make some sense.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12760#220403
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12760#220491
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12760#220501
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12760#220580
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12760#220604
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12760#220637
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12760#220741
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12760#220763
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12760#220780
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12760#220819
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12760#220861
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12760#220912
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12760#220955
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12760#221384
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12760#221442
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12760#221536
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12760#221621

Pericles, a full list of posts should jog your memory about "where did that come from, formersnag?"

more simple questions.

Q, if left wing politics has ONLY ever produced negative results, is it a scientific experiment worthy of continuing support?

Q, if christianity has on SOME occasions through corruption of true principles produced negative results, but on MANY occasions produced positive results, is it the lesser of 2 evils?

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12760#221653

Yabby, ah sarcasm?

i DO believe the christian story, just not all of it, along with millions of christians.

EG, "witnessing" http://bible.org/seriespage/witnessing-sharing-christ-others-session-18 Jehovah's Witness interpret this as "door knocking the neighbourhood", Some Pentecostals interpret this as standing on city street corners speaking loudly about christianity during lunch time, Quakers interpret this as meaning that you go out doing good works like digging wells & building schools in third world countries then wait patiently for the locals to ask you why you are helping them.

Same biblical verse, 3 different interpretations or church doctrines. Democracy means any christian can choose which church is more BELIEVABLE to them.

What is so hard about that?

I do NOT however believe in devils. i have seen first hand, irrefutable evidence of repeated evil acts, stone cold, well co-ordinated & committed by sheeple in large groups working together towards common goals, following the "party line" slavishly, in a manner suggesting extensive brain washing by a world wide evil cult, communazi international socialism.

"As for the rest of my post", YOU suggested i might want to buy a "Sydney Bridge", i showed you why i would NOT have fallen for it like the RED/green, getup, GAYLP/alp, Socialist Alliance did.

I do enjoy a nice cup of tea & an afternoon nana nap occasionally, along with reading good books, perhaps you could try reading these, which just might "enlighten" you a bit.

http://www.downloadweb.org/search.php?acode=2d6cfcc00b464c7ee4408add5d864738&q=The%2520naked%2520communist

http://www.torrents.net/torrent/324389/The-Naked-Capitalist-ocr'd-pdf/

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/at-last-a-thorough-probe-into-what-drives-the-greens-machine/story-fn59niix-1226095160826

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/opinion/the-covert-comrades-in-the-alp/story-e6frg6zo-1225887087909

http://www.themonthly.com.au/node/2298 it is only a magazine article but worth a good read.

http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/books/opposites-attract-as-sartor-the-sage-manages-to-bridge-partys-divide-20111005-1l9ro.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjaBpVzOohs if your too tired to read, try this video

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12760#221623
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12760#221653

Pericles & Yabby, again here is your poster boy Dawkins on loony left wing political psuedo science & academic fraud, enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzNwjfbVt-U&feature=related this one is beautiful, Poirot might enjoy it as well.

Lord help us.

Man is such an unpredictable and complex critter, equally capable even today of extraordinary barbarity or of profound compassion (and of everything in between), that it certainly appears that:

1. The fundamental disposition of each individual is almost totally determined by their life experience (learning) - with genetic inheritance generally only contributing in a minor way to intellectual potential, motor skills, artistic bent, and some relatively minor personality traits (and some mental disabilities);

2. A large proportion of the human race is so disgusted with the reality of mankinds unreliability (on the whole) that they find it imperative that they appeal to a higher (ethereal) authority to try to make things better;

3. Either, Mankind's evolutionary path has a long way further to travel to be anywhere near worthy of being seen as "in God's image", Or someone has made an error in the cooking pot, Or the sheeple will inherit the Earth when the aggros have wiped each other out, Or God is some sort of comedian, Or we just have to have the laugh on ourselves and muddle away the best we can until a better space ship comes along.

Lorh help us.