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Pornography: The harm of discrimination : Comments

By Helen Pringle, published 10/10/2011

A very common use of pornography is as sexual discrimination.

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Sam Jandwich:

...Ahh..the joys and cheer bliss of a "sexually permeated work environment"; does one such still exist? especially as a comparison to the sad alternative of a workplace aggressively dominated with a culture of "misandry", for example teaching profession. It is little wonder men will not go where "angles fear to tread"!
Posted by diver dan, Monday, 10 October 2011 12:05:59 PM
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I'm definitely not a wowser, Anti; and Dan, workplaces are still sexually permeated, though we all have to be careful of our conduct and whether suggestive behaviour is wanted. The modern workplace is definitely dangerous. I had a complaint raised against me by a female once because I apparently failed to respect her religious beliefs in conversation. I was advised to just apologise because being an "alpha male" (I was very flattered) I was never going to win against a comparatively helpless female. I did apologise, even though I felt, and still feel, I'd done nothing wrong; but it wasn't to save my neck, it was because talking it over I came to see that women really are very often at a "natural" disadvantage.
It's not only sexualised behaviour that's increasingly not tolerated.
The trouble with the codes of political correctness is that they often breed resentment, and in censoring the behaviour drive it underground, where the "impulse" to misbehave is nurtured.
You're fond of criticising women, Anti, I'm just saying why don't you try changing hats and turn that critical thinking on men?
I want to see the psychology of men put under the microscope, to see if anything can or should be done about their sexual obsessiveness, and to see whether they live up to their own or their loved ones' disingenuous assessments.
Women are complicit in their own degradation and it's about time they faced reality.
Posted by Squeers, Monday, 10 October 2011 12:45:12 PM
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http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12717#219692
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12717#219732
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12717#219744

Squeers, Sam Jandwich & isabelberners, Q#1, what about all the feMANazi & GLBT porn out there?

Q#2, http://www.rense.com/general32/americ.htm read all of it, but pay particular attention to #24, #25, & #26. Given that we now know for a well documented, scientifically proven fact that our entire pornography industry was deliberately manufactured by devil worshipping, communazi, corporate paedophiles, for the specific purpose of grooming bourgoise, capitalist children for neglect & abuse, why are you suddenly complaining about it now?

Too little & half a century too late.
Posted by Formersnag, Monday, 10 October 2011 1:19:14 PM
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...Supporting the argument against "discrimination of women" in the workplace only becomes counterintuitive when the view of the woman is narrowed to the view of "sexuality" alone: But when women are viewed as a "personality" divorced from sexuality, then a new paradigm of equality emerges. This is a view from which I observe the reality of equality, and seemingly, so does Squeers it seems.

...So the opposite to the intended outcomes of the womens rights movement emerges when the natural positioning of men in the workforce is subservient to sexualisation of the female in the male environment, as is the current trend applicable to the male population of that workforce, as it does, by accusing men of discriminating against females by male traditions of self promotion.

...Such positioning of the argument of equal rights for women by the ant discrimination movement castigates or diverts the intended outcome and derails any honest attempt to arrive at an agreeable consensus of the mutual workplace genders, allowing for a peaceful and productive co-existence by segregating behavior exhibiting sexual innuendo to specific areas of the workplace as acknowledgement that such play on innuendo is perfectly natural to both male and female species of the human-race and therefore should be mutually acceptable to both, but overlaid with mutual respect for each other!

...What should eventuate as mutually agreeable to the advance of women into the male environment is for males to be suitably accommodated on their work-site by affording them the rights of male tradition and to think and act as males when in male company and not to be irrationally subsurved to an inferior position brought about by an irrationality born of feminisms natural desire to dominate their environment, thus creating disharmony and confusion to natural male respect towards women by so-doing.
Posted by diver dan, Monday, 10 October 2011 2:00:41 PM
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I appeal to the Gentle men to rise up against the violence and demeaning comments made to and about good women in our society. Public displat of porne condition men such. I must admit many women are rather sleezy and believe such entice men. Human dignity has gone out the window, as I note young women travelling into the City by train on friday nights for a weekend of pleasure already half drunk. The biggest use of porne is currently being viewed by teenage girls as they imagine that to win men's favour they must behave such.
Posted by Philo, Monday, 10 October 2011 2:54:25 PM
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Helen,

I dislike extremisms of any ilk. While the behaviour of the men at the mine was out of the ordinary, the judgement effectively made anything that the women might find as having a sexual bent offensive as illegal. There are many old artworks by renowned masters that would effectively be banned or even pictures from Vogue. I personally have never put up any such material, but the banning of all calendars of attractive women holding drills is more than a little extreme. (and hardly pornography)

The judgement in the Bolt case is another example where causing offence is used to suppress individual comment or expression.

The judgements imply that the only way never to offend anyone is to say nothing, and silence is paramount over expression.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 10 October 2011 3:35:46 PM
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