Well runner clearly the PM did suck up to the Right with the No Carbon Tax promise. The only reason she went back on it was to win government in a hung parliament. Abbott would have done the same to win government, Abbott mooted a Carton Tax and he has said he would have sold his 'behind' to win power.

I don't agree with the Carbon Tax either but do you really believe if Abbott and the Greens had formed Government we would not be going down the same track. You are dreamin' if you think different.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12582#217561

Arjay, spot on.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12582#217566

Yabby, while all of that is technically correct, it is a half truth, there is no need for jack booted storm troopers in the land of OZ because the sheeple have been fooled by the spinganda.

Super funds investing in shares is one of the biggest problems facing our economy, fund managers gambling with billions daily is what causes the boom/bust cycle, furthermore all those people owning shares through super don't have their names on the shares, cant go to a shareholders meeting, which is why the Board & managment get away with blue murder, as you well know.

You are collaberating with the super rich to steal from the low & middle income earners. Have you heard of WW2? What happened in 1945 France to people who collaberated with the Nazis? i have met many Tea Party, moderate centrists, you are from the ruling elites of the loony left & raving right, supporting the rape of Australia by foriegn multinationals.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12582#217573

pelican, i do love the way you try so hard to ignore my comments. the PM sucked up to the centre on her broken CT promise, the raving right want it just as much as the loony left, big poluters pass it all on to consumers, &/or get compensation, banksters get to trade in carbon derivatives, they steal from all of us get rich & make some tax deductable donations to RED/green NGO's with Bob, Penny, Peter & Greg on the board.

if you believe otherwise you are dreaming.

*Yabby, while all of that is technically correct,*

That's all it needs to be, Formersnag. Without your colourfull
imagination added. That was my point.

*Super funds investing in shares is one of the biggest problems facing our economy,*

Sheesh, there was silly old me thinking that workers having 1.5
trillion $, much of it invested in Australian assets, was a good
thing. If not workers, who do you think should own large corporations?

Our boom/bust cycle is very much tied up with us being a commodity
driven economy. Thus we need to focus on becoming a diversified
economy, with lots of niche industries, as I've previously mentioned.

*furthermore all those people owning shares through super don't have their names on the shares, cant go to a shareholders meeting*

Formersnag, they have every right to question their super fund about
its investments. If they don't like its policies, they can move their
money elsewhere. Today hundreds of thousands run their own super
funds, so they can go to meetings if they wish. Meantime something
like 40% of Australians own shares directly. Thats in the millions.

2000 people in Australia earn over a million. So very few indeed,
as it stands. Unlike you, I don't suffer from envy.

FS
I was not ignoring you I was responding to runner.

The trouble is while you acknolwedge concern with the free trade and globalisation policies of the far Right you are more concerned with attacking the Left. I suspect what you think is Left and what I think constitutes the Left in the Australian context might be different. As Haigh writes much criticism of the 'Left' in Australia is really aimed at the Centre/Left. There are few socialists left in Oz most are only imagined. Listening to some commentators you would think the 'The Reds under the Beds' have been upgraded from closets to bedroom suites.

I reckon most Australians can see the benefits of collective interests and invidual interests without being confined to strictly Left/Righ perspectives albeit those terms can provide useful sometimes as a descriptive aid.

The fact that the Greens forced the Carbon Tax issue does not make it a Left policy. Climate Change and solutions are not exclusively Left or Right issue.

The author appears to have got out on the wrong side of the bed, and become disoriented.

Otherwise, why would the Right be attributed with pushing Left-wing agendas such as global warming scaremongering, the carbon tax, nationalising the broadband network, same-sex 'marriage', and the release of illegal refugees from detention?

Pelican

You are dreaming if you think Abbott would of introduced a carbon tax. You are mixing him up with the true believer Turnbull who thankfully got booted out which resulted in the Liberals ratings sky rocketing. Tony Abbott is dishonest on man made climate change because he knows that it is c-ap and yet still insists the Liberals will reduce Greenhouse gases by 5% by 2020. He would not of been nearly as naive as Gillard who thought she could con the Australian public with this unnecessary job destroying tax.