Well, Pericles, I called for it first. I am the number 1 boof-head. Actually I suppose I just mocked the figures, as is my way.

I actually missed that this is a prediction for 10 years time. What an ambitious study it mustr have been, taking into account such a variety of factors. I cant wait to see the details of this exciting study! It will assume it to be a precision of the nearest $100000.

Graham I don't think James is claiming it isn't sexist, I think rather that it isn't misogynist, or 'gender hatred'.

I agree. It isn't any more misogynist than it is misandrist that men are killed in war 'precisely because they are men'.

I'm still getting over anti's claim that 105 men are born to every 1 woman.

I also love vanna's wedge.
'ccording to feminist theory, it doesn't matter, because the foetus is not a human, but just a bunch of cells.'

If the feminist is pro-choice, I think its every woman's right to abort. We always keep hearing women don't make these decisions lightly. But, of course, a helpless victim (as all woman are) is not responsible for her choices, we must safely assume it's pressure from a man somewhere. The nurturing virtuous sex just wouldn't do such a thing. The pressure must be extreme for the mother love to be overridden in such a way. It is plainly the mans fault if a woman chooses to abort her daughters, we need no evidence of that. If not on the individual family level, then on the extended family level and if not then on the culture level (Women have and have had no responsibility for any prevailing culture), then on the power-political level. Somewhere, we know for sure, it's all men's fault.

Just as if a man is violent towards any woman, he did it because he has a pathological hatred of all women. No other factors could possibly come into play.

Pericles I'm guessing that the figures are sourced from (or extrapolated from) a report done by Access Economics for the Office of the Status of Women http://www.fahcsia.gov.au/sa/women/pubs/violence/cost_violence_economy_2004/Pages/default.aspx

I wonder what the estimate is for the cost of all violence in Australia, I've not found that yet.

R0bert

'Health cost data for the conditions associated with DV'

Hahaha.

Thanks you so much R0bert!

'Associated'. Of course we must assume any health cost for a condition that can be associated with DV, is infact caused specifically and directly and exclusively by the DV the woman has experienced.

But from the actual report...

'For example, as discussed in the report, the possibility that
correlation between DV and another factor (say, depression)
may both be due to a third (unidentified) factor—such as a
previous life circumstance, or that the causality may be twoway.
These various impacts need to be disentangled in orderto generate more robust fractions that would be generally
accepted among the broader health community. Such analysis
would, in turn, require sound epidemiological source data.
Ideally, a number of similar international evidence should also
be available to support the attributable fractions so derived.
There is still a long way to go in this area to refine estimates
of these potentially very large and important costs.
Similarly, in relation to the second generation impacts,
longitudinal analysis is required in order to disentangle risk
factors, predisposition and causal relationships that link early
events to later outcomes in a systematic way, controlling
for a variety of potentially'

Gotta love this kind of guestimate 'research'...

http://blogs.news.com.au/jackmarxlive/index.php/news/comments/cross_fingers_day/desc/

Thus a reference to a previous report that references a previous study will become a constituent part of a legitimate “new report”, the burdon of methodology removed from the back of the new “researcher”. There is plenty of fodder out there for this sort of folly. Of course, conspicuously absent from the “new report” will be references to previous reports that refute the aims of Cross Fingers Day. The report will thus be not unlike a genuine survey in which answers that confound the researcher’s already predetermined findings are ignored. That’s not a report at all, and any reporting upon it is closer to advertising that journalism.

'There is almost a complete lack of Australian data on
domestic violence against men, and on same-sex domestic
violence and its impacts.'

Surprising!

I missed it earlier (until just after my post).

The estimate is on page 7 of one of the documents http://www.fahcsia.gov.au/sa/women/pubs/violence/np_time_for_action/economic_costs/Documents/VAWC_Economic_Report.PDF

R0bert

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