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Fathers Day present from hell : Comments

By Warwick Marsh, published 2/9/2011

The Gillard government's roll back of father's rights will seal its decline.

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According to Australian suicide researchers Dr Chris Cantor and Dr Pierre Baume, men are most vulnerable in the period immediately after separation.
Recent research into male suicide in this age group revealed that males in the 'separation phase' of a marriage break-up were most at risk of suicide, compared with widowed or divorced males... Relationship breakdown is a significant characteristic of male suicide in the 24-39 age bracket. The anxiety and emotional pain of separation and divorce appear to effect men differently. LifeForce, Wesley Mission 2001
Relationship breakdown is a major trigger for male suicide, exacerbated by men's experiences with the family law system. This conclusion was supported by a study involving 15,000 Australians, released this week by the Australian Institute for Suicide Research and Prevention at Griffith University, which found relationship breakdown to be the main cause of suicide, with the male risk four times that of females.
The QLD Health Suicide Research Project is a study of some 2600 suicides in QLD for 1990-95. In a sub-group (n=294) that reported on relationship separation and length of time, 73% of suicides occurred within one month of the relationship change.
Posted by waamm, Friday, 2 September 2011 9:11:22 PM
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guys...as a father who lost his daughter to female-interest-only family court, when 6 to 9 fathers were committing suicide everyday...forcing p0arliament to bring in shared parenting amendment2006...its taken women 6years to break it...by producing bogus studies on family violence...women sweet and fathers nasty...whitewash...any reasonable person will know these studies are bogus...still parliament accepts and empowers lies...so what does all this say...

well...the problem is energized X-chromosome...these naturally communicates with other x aiming for dominant power, and have little bonding with y...which expressed as destructive self service...but its going to take a book to explain...but crux of it basically is: eve should have been banished from eden by adam after she ate the apple...all the failings then, with god in direct contact to them...still exists now...so we men have to do what adam failed to do...

this takes an energized Y chromosome...but Ive never seen one to date...so far Y chromosome is dying(google it)...maybe this is the next stage of evolution...like the neanderthals...the suppressed y will evolve out...leaving the energizedY and all Xbanished...

I wish these were the words of a hurt or angry father...buts its applying logic+reason to the facts...the conclusion point to the above constantly...

even communities where X suppression is attempted...like muslim countries...x is still organized waiting for the moment to energize...just watch the middle east...culture will die and skirts will rise...and boys broken by their mothers to obey through as adult...knowledge and `attempts to control destructive x is ancient...just have to accept its not possible...

sam
Posted by Sam said, Friday, 2 September 2011 9:31:16 PM
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There are 260,000 fathers of Australian children who evade paying Child Support [Five per cent of them having fled overseas] and who are thereby financially neglecting and abusing approximately 500,000 Australian children and leaving them in poverty and destitution [CSA figures]. It is little wonder that some of those children will become engaged in crime, drug taking, etc which Greg Andresen speaks of. So it is not that fathers are excluded from children's lives by Family Courts or anyone else, but that the vast majority of fathers choose to exclude themselves.
Until of course they are uncovered by the CSA and then use the Shared Care provisions to continue to evade all or part of their financial responsibilities for their children. Thats the real agenda underlying the Sharia Parenting Law and not that fathers have an interest in their children. 500,000 fatherless children living in poverty are far, far greater the the relatively small number who are dealt with under the Sharia Law provisions. It is these 500,000 children we must have most concern about.
WAAM - those suicide studies must have been extremely exclusive as Aborigine males figure most highly in suicide rates, followed by males in the 18 - 25 age group.
"Relationship breakdown is a major trigger for male suicide..." - this has no relevance unless there is a breakdown of how many of those males had children and it was clearly shown that the suicide was linked to separation from those children, not merely from their wife or partner. It is far more likely that the major reason for such male suicides were that they had been dependent on a female to provide for their basic needs and to organise their lives (their mothers and then their wives) and they are suddenly thrust into the world to manage on their own and simply can't cope. Simple statistics such as those WAAMM presents do not provide any indicator of a ny father having committed suicide because he needed his children, as is being implied. This again proves the mythology created around this topic by Father's Rights extremists.
Posted by ChazP, Saturday, 3 September 2011 6:11:06 AM
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ChazP:"Who cares how many men kill themselves, the only good man is a dead one, especially if he's a father"

thanks for clearing that up, Chaz...
Posted by Antiseptic, Saturday, 3 September 2011 6:55:17 AM
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It is claimed by some Father's Rights activists that the reduction in Child Deaths in NSW is somehow linked to the 2006 Family Law Act. On reading the reports of Child Death Review Teams in various States, there seem to be a consensus that "..causes [of child deaths] are drownings in private pools, drownings in natural bodies of water, transport passenger fatalities, pedestrian fatalities, vehicle driver fatalities, asthma, cerebral palsy, congenital malformations, epilepsy, leukaemia, meningococcal disease, pneumonia and deaths due to prematurity.In addition, fatal assault, suicide, sudden unexpected death of infants, and deaths that occur in the context of alcohol and illicit drug use, risk-taking, inadequate supervision, and vulnerability are examined.".
Can those making such clearly absurd statements, show how the above causes of child deaths are in any way linked to the 2006 Family Law Parenting Law.?.
Posted by ChazP, Saturday, 3 September 2011 7:55:32 AM
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"There are 260,000 fathers of Australian children who evade paying Child Support [Five per cent of them having fled overseas] and who are thereby financially neglecting and abusing approximately 500,000 Australian children and leaving them in poverty and destitution [CSA figures]".

The deception of the Government and the CSA is swallowed by only a few, and ChazP is one of those few.

CS is NOT given to the children - it is given to the other parent usually the mother (mothers are relatively far less likely to pay when the CSA claims on them, so why does ChazP only target fathers? Because the Government does?) to spend as she likes, cigarettes, drugs, pay-tv, her finery all being as acceptable to this Government as the children's needs such as education and sport.

The CS is non-acquitable and is in reality in most cases defacto alimony. The mother is under no obligation to tell the children that the father pays, and the Government won't, so many mothers lie to the children about their fathers' financial contribution to further alienate them from their fathers.

And it gets worse - mothers are now routinely granted CS for adult children who still live with them. Adults who have the right to vote etc, yet mummies-dear are given hand-outs from fathers' hard-earned.

The CSA is an "equal opportunity employer" with 75%+ female staff; it's a joke, a sick anti-father taxpayer money-sucker.
Posted by L.B.Loveday, Saturday, 3 September 2011 8:12:00 AM
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