Indonesia is in need of imported cattle to feed its large population they may not be cattle from nearby Australia. Their abettors will continue their cruel practices of conscious slaughter. The Government ban on live exports only damages Australia. All that has happened will be the northern Australian meat producers and exporters will not have a market or an income.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12508#216115

Spot on Philo, an excellent article, it will be interesting to see if any of the communists comment.

Yeah that's anybody who disagrees with is a dirty red, pathetic.
The live meat trade will be phased out and it should be. How the Indonesian kill their meat is a matter for them in the end. Whether we Australians are willing to supply them is a matter for Australians to decide.
I think transporting animals a long distance to be slaughter is not only cruel it's stupid. I guess that must mean I have a poster of Stalin in my office.
The political reality is the red necks in the NT are never even going to change their vote. So Labour will ignore them and the liberals will take them for granted. Either way their views are basically irrelevant.

the other point to make here is the cattle price has barely moved, throught this whole issue. so from a market point of view it barely registered.

cornonacob,
The Australian market price has not changed because Australians do not consume beef from the top end because it is expensive to ship to southern abittors. Much of the live export is not suitable to the Australian consumer. Properties above the tropic of Capricorn is in the sights of Indonesia to become under Indonesian rule.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12508#216174

cornonacob, every member/supporter of the RED/green, getup, GAYLP/alp, Socialist Alliance is a closet communist. this is a well documented scientifically proven fact.

if you must know i would prefer to see "live export" replaced with export of boxed meat, but i would never shut it down immediately because a tiny minority of radical, ANTI capitalist, extremists want to.

Persons like cornonacob are really not concerned for the welfare of animals, as evidenced by his post. " How the Indonesian kill their meat is a matter for them in the end. Whether we Australians are willing to supply them is a matter for Australians to decide".

He just wishes to damage Australias export income and reputation. Typical closet communist.

Someone recons shipping cattle a long way is cruel. You should see the way these animals are rounded up. The cattle hate the choppers buzzing around them, and they are stampeded for 10's of kilometers at a time. That is what is cruel. They are run over by other cattle, they are stripping their gut out on low lying bushes, they are suffering broken legs.

The whole saga of live export is doomed. We must box the meat or package in quarters. Electrical stunning of cattle will never work. The bye product of animal slaughter is the hides and blood. Blood is 98% protein, and the hides are best with only one cut. Unless the beast has it's food passage tied the inner contents of the stomach ends up in the blood collection.

The resurrection of abattoirs in the north. A 15 million $ abattoirs failed because of live export, 10 months after it was completed, everything was stainless steel, only to be pulled apart and sold off.
Bring back the cowboy round up, and value add the meat product. Indonesia is not the only country in the world that eats meat. The southern part of AU could do with a bit as well. $ 25 / kg is poison, and obscene.

Meat from the top end is not welcome here because it will drop the price of beef. The only requirement the indonesians have on it is the carcase weight being around 300 kg's, so they have to be finished in feed lots before slaughter.
These cattle are grown on pretty lean country, and driven mad with dingoe's, hense the lot feeding