There's a big difference between rigorous psychiatry and popular quackery though.

Remember that many people making diagnoses of mental illnesses such as ADHD are GPs who may not have any particular expertise in the area, and who are simply applying a textbook definition to real cases without having studied the subject in depth. And i'm not sure about this but I have a hunch that such diagnoses are often influenced by concerned or embarrassed parents who just want their little one to stop climbing the walls. You'd be surprised how many GPs are simply willing to give such people a nice little prescription and send them on their way. But this misuse of diagnosis degrades the legitimacy of the illness in the eyes of many - it's just like the boy who cried wolf.

Similarly, it is easy to characterise the effects of trauma as being somehow not quite the same as a mental illness, but rather of adaptation. However once the source of trauma disappears the adaptation remains.It becomes a "maladaptation" which both impairs the person's functioning and which the person cannot recover from on their own. Again I don't know about PTSD, but certainly in people who have suffered abuse in childhood there are indications that brain physiology changes as a result.

However our understanding of all this is still developing, and as such it is important for us not to imagine that this area of study is "finished". Psychiatrists will readily acknowledge that the drugs currently available are far from perfect, and that we still have a lot to discover about the way the brain works and how it can be controlled - which is why talking therapy is sometimes more effective than drugs... again, adaptation, or physical changes in the brain, are achievable through this.

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Which brings me to "under one god" - who as far as I can understand is recommending that we explore alternative approaches to therapy. This is not altogether an unreasonable suggestion. before Freud came along we conceptualised mental illness very differently - like for example the concept demonic possession. and the treatments designed for such conditions were probably not ineffective in many cases, as they essentially amount to a form of talking therapy. It is hard to research these types of approaches to therapy due to the inherent inconsistencies between cases. But yes I agree this is another area where more research is needed.

so how are we going to 'class-ify'..mental illness
with the riots going on globally

anyhow ross and elane appeared
repeatedly arround the tower of london
in some future 'time'

yes he claimed to have traveled from 1996
to london 2011...[so clearly the guy was nuts right]

he even claimed to be the 7 th angel?
so clearly he was loco

yet the things he talked of are now happening
but heck anyone coukld guess this time of collective insanity
[ie london burning..tokio/israelsyrians rioting in the streets]
was to come..

but heck the whole thing is crazey
[its said you have to be insane to even want to live at these times]

so if you get to the 'tower'.of london..anytime soon
let us know..if you bump into a red haired nutter and his wife
telling you things[crazey things about time travel and leaders not telling the truth]

yep its just too crazey for serious contemplation

but hey he did predict it
[is it 'really happening]..thats clearly phycosis

next collective phycosis

and lets presume bits of london actually are burning
[the reason apparently..is by reason of the plan
by the powers that be..[or were]
to release 'anthrax'..lab quality
just like last time..[ring a ring a rosie..anthrax symptoms?]

but thats nuts
crazey man

not sure wether to laugh or cry
[thats a symptom..to put you on meds

i know god is real..[but not by ross's telling]
the leaders were told..given proof..
but they stayed silent

and now we each need to learn
the truth of a good god..the hard way
[religeous nutter..drug him into silence]

the looting thing
wernt that on the simpsons?
well done rupert..[lol]

at least we arnt talking about the carborn tax
but all them polies..on holidays..[whats with that]

anyhow im going in

to find out
what really happend

http://whatreallyhappened.com/

not sure what really happend to ross and elaine
likely they are in some nut house in london
where the writing on the wall 'appeared'

collective insanity
comming to your town soon
if your..not crazy yet..you soon will be

too crazy for words

OUG Says:

collective insanity
comming to your town soon
if your..not crazy yet..you soon will be

…Lets not get too carried away with the state of the world OUG; even those professing a problematic time with depression are not insane; they are simply uncomfortable. Rioting youths in London are the same “pi##ed to the eyeballs” youth that maraud the streets of Australian cities and towns any weekend: The modern day infatuation with drugs and alcohol is a root cause of insanity, not the supposed assistance package enabling self-survival in a mad world at all; drugs and alcohol are THE mad world.

People are entitled to their view but that is not to say the views of some people aren't absolute nonsense. .. That is to say that they are non-sensical, or not based on the world of the senses that can be evidenced by the scientific method.

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To state categorically that mental illness is a social construct and that it has no basis in biology is an absolute and utter nonsense.

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That of course is not to say that "mental illness" isn't a multi-faceted problem. It is. My last post provided a glad bag of things that I deployed to bring me back from the best part of 5 years where life was one great, big, long "psychotic episode." Verily, a patient of "clozapine" for some time,

BUT NOW

whilst admittedly far from perfect,

I am married, have a daughter, part of a tertiary education and a small internet business.

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15 years ago I was an abandoned train wreck on skid row.

;-)

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Oh, a healthy brain is dynamic, and capable of a range of emotions and thoughts, both "good" and "bad." A healthy brain moves dynamically in and out of different states, whereas the unhealthy brain is impaired in this regard.

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Of course, if one chooses to overly dwell in a certain state, one can in this way impair the overall health of the organ to the extent that it cannot regain its former ability to return to a healthy equilibrium.

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That is to say that there is something of a "push-pull/2 way street" between what could loosely be termed the psychiatric drivers on the one hand and the psychological ones on the other.

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By way of an example, you can take a substance which will alter the psychiatric state of your conscious and thereby bring about an altered psychological state, and conversely, you can say abuse someone psychologically to the extent that you will bring about a potentially permanent change in their psychiatric state.

No, this inane p!ssing match that erupts between psychiatry and psychology is more about a squabble over the scraps from the table of the politicians then anything else.