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Greens deserve rational scrutiny : Comments

By Nils von Kalm, published 25/7/2011

Thinking through such policies with reasoned logic and intelligent debate has been sadly lacking when it comes to the reporting of Greens’ policies in much of the media.

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Greens NEED rational scrutiny
Posted by hugoagogo, Monday, 25 July 2011 11:44:34 AM
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Well Nils, I too have no political afiliations of any kind. Neither do I have any religious affiliations. Unless, well I could be called a Callathumpian.

You seem to be an Analytical Thinker. I have been told that I'm one too. There is a good paper at "TechRepublic" about "The 10 curses of an Analytical Thinker." Definately worth a read, if you are interested. Like Kangaroo's. We're a dangerious breed mate.

Having read your piece I tend to agree with you in certain areas but possibly not for the same reasons.

Bob Brown bats for the other side. ;-) which, even though Australians are a reasonably tolerent lot, doesn't sit well with most of us. On drugs. With the Greens the perception is that they are a lot of hard drug taking, smoking, crack heads who want drugs legalized. Which doesn't sit well with most of us.

Now on Alternate energy. I, myself, would like nothing better than to extradite the world out from under the feet of the Oil Barons. Alternate energy is a good way to go. But unfortunatly it's not, & can't & will not happen over night as the Greens want it too.

Cont. over
Posted by Jayb, Monday, 25 July 2011 1:36:20 PM
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Cont.

The Green Policy on Alternate Energy is somewhat more than contradictory.

They want Australia to adopt Alternate Energy, NOW. They say Solar Power is the way to go, but they oppose the building of thermal power stations anywhere the Government wants to put one. Something to do with the destroying Amimals habitats, creating heat sinks & creating violent storms.

Try getting a Wind farm off the ground. No that gets opposed as well because it'll stop the cows from milking & kill birds. & the noise, the noise.

Hydro Power, No that will kill the little bum breathing turtles & stop the Lung fish from breading & destroy animal habitats. You can only build Dams where rain never falls, there are no trees, plants or birds.

Deep thermal rock fracking. No that will contaminate the Aquifyers & release poisonious gases into the land & destroy animal habitats.

I'm really at a loss here. Help me understand how Alternate Energy is going to happen.
Posted by Jayb, Monday, 25 July 2011 1:37:26 PM
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Morganzola, you no doubt see me as one of the trolls, I except that.
Yet I think your charges, and you have made many of late, are better suited to your self.
You told my I am a good bloke, but once I come to my senses? then no more answers to my posts came.
A question, is *Rational Scrutiny* only judged as so if it is not questioning the greens?
Can I ask posters to consider the Rational Scrutiny my ALP is currently receiving.
Or to read Morganzolas thoughts Labor is dead and ask, why is that not making him a troll?
Look down your nose at me, but do not ignore, tell me if you dare this is not true.
More Labor voters more conservatives, at least 50% of voters are in some words not mine trolls.
I honestly firmly think the greens are an awful weight on my country's future, Troll that I am, or just maybe only 12% think that.
Posted by Belly, Monday, 25 July 2011 1:56:48 PM
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Now, if only we could get them to give up those silly environmental policies....
Posted by Jon J, Monday, 25 July 2011 2:11:37 PM
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@ Belly:

I agree that the Greens need 'rational scrutiny', as do all political parties. The author of the article agrees too.

What no party should be subjected to is a campaign based on irrational fear, spin, disinformation and relentless, obvious lying. It concerns me that so many of you who oppose the Greens seem to think that sort of political discourse is acceptable these days.

The Greens don't play that game, which is one reason I vote for them - and also why Bob Brown is consistently rated the Australian political leader with the most integrity. Their policies are by no means perfect, but they certainly come closer to my own beliefs than other parties, including the ALP since it shifted so far to the Right.

I'm happy to have a rational debate with you, but I refuse to stoop to lies and insults. May I remind you that it was you who declared war on me - I just started ignoring you when you refused to debate rationally. Do you think you can engage in 'rational criticism' without resorting to spin, lies or disinformation?
Posted by morganzola, Monday, 25 July 2011 2:57:38 PM
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