Again from the climate club of Canberra the over entitled view of the world "Young people deserve to inherit a world that is yada yada"

no they don't deserve anything

nor do we or anyone else owe you or anyone else anything

you don't owe me anything either, we're all here to do the best we can, if we want to

You seem to have convinced yourselves of your entitlement, like spoiled brats demanding from mummy and daddy, which clearly was successful so it has become habit

Why is it all the articles from the climate club always have almost exactly the same demanding/whining demands based in a sense of entitlement.

What is common in your backgrounds you all sound like this?

"Pricing carbon in Australia will have positive ripple effects internationally and on future generations."

no it won't, no one gives a rat's bottom what a bunch of Australians does or says, never did, never will .. but I guess the message is just to frame to other weak minded Australians, ho hum.

"Climate change won't be solved with a negative attitude"

What is it needs to be "solved"?

You don't like something, you demand and someone fixes ..yes, like at home yes? No, this is the real world.

Climate cannot be changed by the whim of people in Australia.

Climate cannot be adjusted by us at all I suspect.

What a stupid statement, clearly framed for weak little followers

If we have affected the climate is it more probable by land clearing and population than by use of fossil fuels, which will be around for at least another 100 years, regardless of tantrums by eco whackos and unhappy adolescents.

Who funds the climate club, who are the US groups who fund the AYCC and what are their goals, what percentage of AYCC funding comes from overseas?

Why are the AYCC allowing overseas interests to determine and mold Australia lobby groups?

People get upset if skeptics are funded by overseas organizations, but here we find a lobbying group in the same position, accepting money from nefarious sources .. why?

@bonmot - "'it' is more complicated than your original post."

Hardly fair mate, I only got 350 words max. What did you expect?

Anyway, have a good weekend all.

@voxUnius wrt my "'it' is more complicated than your original post."

>> Hardly fair mate, I only got 350 words max. What did you expect? <<

Exactly, you must have missed what I said earlier. Here is an excerpt:

2. b) Not overlooked Vox. But, have you ever tried to explain complex numbers, or the derivation of E = mc^2, to primary schoolers?

Similarly, it is difficult on OLO to explain the Clausius–Clapeyron relation, or Kirchhoff’s Law, or whatever … to those that just don’t understand rudimentary physics or chemistry – as many posters here exhibit. Imho, it is the height of stupidity for some ‘nutters’ to tell experts (in whatever their specialised field) that they don’t understand what they are talking about, or they have got it all wrong.

Vox, many so called climate “sceptics” wouldn’t have a clue about the Boltzmann constant or Planck’s Law – each and of themselves underpinning much of the basic tenets of ‘climate science’ developed over the last century, and found in high school text-books the world over. Yet, we have ‘pseudo-sceptics’ wanting to overturn it all – simply mind-boggling.

Cont’d
Vox, pardon for getting caught out by post limits.

2. b) Cont’d

Yes, the Tropopause can expand and contract as it were the Earth’s lungs, and you’re right – the Earth System is not truly a “closed system”, but the analogy is perfectly ok for OLO ‘primary schoolers’ (metaphorically Vox, I hope you understand that point).

Put simply: the Troposphere is not saturated and the (atmospheric) concentration of CO2 is going up.

Anyway, you have a good weekend too.

Perhaps you can take time to listen to professsor Hans Schellnhuber, Director of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research and a key adviser to the German Government and the European Union on climate change

He gave an interview on the ABC's Radio National program 'The National Interest" this afternoon. He talks about what we are doing/not doing here in OZ.

ps - you can have 4 posts (1400 words) on any one article in a 24 hr period.

Does global-warming brain-washing go under the name of economics these days?

Does the author realise that there has been no statistically significant global warming since 1998, which is contrary to what the IPCC and its alarmist supporters predicted?

Does the author really believe that the rest of the world would follow the Labor Govt's crazy carbon-tax implementation with their own crazy versions?

Perhaps the author could explain how Australia would be better off by converting from reliable, cost-efficient coal-fired power to unreliable wind energy at three times the cost, or better still to unreliable solar energy at ten times the cost. She could also explain
how such irrational conversions, which substantially raise power costs to all businesses, would improve Australia's productivity and prosperity.

"Climate change won't be solved with a negative attitude"

Correct. It won't be solved by Labor, or the 'liberals' or the Greens either.

At best each individual and each business entity can do their bit to reduce waste, re-use stuff, recycle and look after their immediate environment.

At worst, we can get caught up with partisan politics based on who can fool most of the people most of the time (67% apparently).

So why are we doing partisan politics? Oh because we exist to hate Labor, or we exist to implement a lame scheme to p1ss off the tories, or because 12% of people voted for us and we'll leverage off that.

Think for yourselves.

"Perhaps the author could explain how Australia would be better off by converting from reliable, cost-efficient coal-fired power to unreliable wind energy at three times the cost, or better still to unreliable solar energy at ten times the cost."

Easy: "Heather Bruer is an Economics student at the University of Adelaide. She is currently the International Co-director at the Australian Youth Climate Coalition."

As a greenie student, reality is not required. Go world peace!