Lance,

Here's a transcript of Evonne Paddison's speech - which does appear to cover the discipling of schoolchildren quite comprehensively - that is, it's not just a throw-away reference. Scroll down to controversial passages highlighted in yellow - although it's worth reading in its entirety.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/55338278/ACCESS-Ministry-s-Evonne-Paddison-s-speech-to-Anglican-Evangelical-Fellowship

LanceL,

There are a number of issues around the whole situation and your commentary on it. Many of us are aware of the context of Padderson's disciples comment - it is not the word disciples that irks, it is the the shift towards aggressive evangelising and proselytising (the latter I define as providing services as bait such as chaplain-provides breakfasts of scripture provided snacks, or hospital services in Africa).

It is not that RE is in schools but the increasing aggression and monopolising that is going on as religiosity in society decreases. i.e. the balance is shifting on those 2 fronts.

It is telling that in your most recent post you talk about "a burden to keep us in". That is what I referred to as special pleading for the language and for the unbalanced opportunity. You fail to address the issue of Access Ministries having the monopoly for RE AND chaplaincy; as it seems SU QLD do in QLD, and another organisation does in NSW - Gener8.

The christian community is increasingly failing to deal with those issues of monopoly and stridency with grace and truth, as are politicians.

I suggest you look at a number of these issues on light of the posts here, particularly those by R0bert, such as the one at Tuesday, 31 May 2011 7:33:38 AM

Hi guys,
Just a quick check-in to say I haven't "gone to ground". Just a busy week. (Including conversations on this subject through other forums.) Our conversation may reach a stalemate at some point, but I certainly haven't jumped yet :)

Catch ya' soon ...
Lance