Bonmot,
When you’ve finished stomping on Atmans fingers …

"Physics is the only real science. The rest are just stamp collecting.": Ernest Rutherford

Oh, and in case you want to upgrade …

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um7SttlM8fI

Bonmot, your patience is admirable. The man is an idiot.

Nicco, there really is no excuse for ignorance in our society today. Whilst Atman's claim showed ignorance, his reply was indeed idiotic. Whether he is an idiot (or not) is really not at issue.

I think we know who is wanting to dumb down the average Ozzie joe/jill - it is so counter productive, so very negative, and so without vision.

Thing is, while idiocy or foolishness is also counter productive, both idiots and fools still have the right to vote ... even the right to run for parliament.

Bonmot, personal attacks are the sign of having no coherent arguments and quoting personal qualifications proves nothing. Such ploys are well known characteristics of people who run out of ideas. I have Science qualifications from an elite University. This means very little in terms of this discussion nor do your 'reported' qualifications.

You say "following your logic...don't drink water" . Wrong. Your reasoning is apparently that if O2 was a pollutant (like you say carbon is) then water would be a pollutant. You missed the point that I was parodying your logic with carbon, using oxygen, to prove a point. This a your logic, not mine. You are arguing against yourself. You have actually successfully defeated yourself in an argument. Sorry, if you didn't get it.