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Divine soup, anyone? A review of Hating God : Comments
By Greg Clarke, published 19/5/2011I far prefer an angry Atheist to an Apatheist. At least the God-hater still cares.
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Posted by Squeers, Thursday, 19 May 2011 5:11:27 PM
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I detest the suggestion that thinking people cannot be devout believers. And Greg Clarke would also detest such a claim.
In my experience, it's a statement that online atheists make with predictable regularity, yet lack the ability to prove or even make good arguments whatsoever in support of. Posted by Trav, Thursday, 19 May 2011 5:16:03 PM
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"I detest the suggestion that thinking people cannot be devout believers".
Well you should qualify that, Trav. .. Believers in what? I devoutly believe that good is better than bad, and that we could make this world a better place for everyone. And I devoutly believe in my ignorance--which allows for endless possibilities. But I'm willing to dismiss 2000 year old fairy tales that appeal to fear and vanity, in the light of more rigorous, evidence-based and up-to-date explanations for my existence. But I'm fickle though, should new, more compelling evidence come to light, I'll consider it too--or at least I'll weigh it against my infallible ignorance. Anyway, I implied that believers in the "Biblical God" could not also be thinkers. Many Christians treat the Bible as symbolic/literary evidence for an enduring, even universal, fascination with the mystery of creation. I agree and don't dismiss it--all that hankering can't be based on nothing, right? That would be absurd. I find that kind of rationale cum sceptical agnosticism perfectly acceptable, though I can think of other explanations too and so in all humility I don't put any faith in it. If God wants to punish me for owning my ignorance, so be it. Posted by Squeers, Thursday, 19 May 2011 5:45:31 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgDAxCcXdZ0
Isnt it funny that religious groups doctrine, relays on more children for indoctrination, to save, its system......Now 7 Billion...well....I guess religious people are intelligently understanding. Religious people are not bad people, there just a bit slow:) no catching up now! you hear:) The environmentalists are very concerned about the religious mind-sets as well as the UN, on there breading philosophies. Ummmm lets see. No birth control, No contraceptives, No abortion, but just more children:).....funny that:) LEA Posted by Quantumleap, Thursday, 19 May 2011 6:39:24 PM
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Squeers, yes, you "implied that believers in the "Biblical God" could not also be thinkers."
And that's exactly what I was referring to. You love evidence, that's "evident" from your posts. Yet, you haven't provided any for this statement. And as someone who considers myself to be both a believer and a thinker, it's offensive. But of course, I guess it shouldn't worry me, it isn't like you've provided any "evidence" for your statement. Posted by Trav, Thursday, 19 May 2011 7:02:16 PM
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Cool link Ammonite.
Inspired me to sing "it's the end of the world as we know it". The BIG question is do I have enough time to master the trumpet to warn the people? Loved the comments section, especially the battle hymn. Bring it on! Or not. Posted by Neutral, Thursday, 19 May 2011 7:09:32 PM
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...I hope she's a 25 year old blonde nymphomaniac!
It's not how I remember "Endgame" either, which is predicated on an endless stalemate in a drawn-out game of chess--infinitely boring without some kind of resolution to play for I s'pose is the point.
But yes, I've got no time for atheists who relish their reductionism either.
...But then, it's not about asserting that "there is no God!", and more about, "God! ...What are you on, mate?"
Of course I flat-out don't believe in the Biblical God--bloody nonsense (though hermeneutically fascinating!)--nobody who's ever thought about it could (cheap shot at xtians there)!
...But then, there are infinite other possibilities in the universe and ignorance is a kind of "absurd"* bliss/torture.
"I far prefer an angry Atheist to an Apatheist. At least the God-hater still cares".
And I far prefer a thinking Christian to a devout one. At least a thinking Christian's an apostate.
* Beckett's plays were part of the theatre of the absurd.