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Torture is never legal and didn’t lead America to bin Laden : Comments

By Marjorie Cohn, published 16/5/2011

The assassination of Osama bin Laden has rekindled the discourse about the efficacy and legality of torture.

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Truly the death of Bin Laden will NOT stop terrorism, but he did deserve to die. I don't care if he was guilty of planning the September 11 attacks or not, by claiming them he wrote his doom. As to his being unarmed when shot? What percentage of the people on the aircraft on that day or in the buildings they flew into, were unarmed? In short, who cares? Honestly, Bin Laden would not have been taken prisoner if he'd been spotted having a Latte in Melbourne (Hmmm, bad example perhaps)....

As to stopping Muslim extremists, that is precisely how it is done, one or more bits of lead or steel to the head. He is now an ex-muslim extremist, that cannot be denied. If each and every one is treated precisely the same way, then it will be over pretty soon. India will help and they have almost as many soldiers as China.

May he rot deep in the ocean (in the belly of the crabs ie.non-halal) and let us pray that he cannot get to Allah...
Posted by Custard, Monday, 16 May 2011 3:58:33 PM
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Readers may be interested in the summary and links below. Zombie typists might show some evidence that they have read the article, before justifying torture on those not among the undead.

http://physiciansforhumanrights.org/library/documents/articles/allen-keller-iacopino-science.html

"Bad Science Used to Justify and Support Torture and Human Experimentation"

"Article Shows that the US Government Used Bad Science to Commit and Conceal Torture

"PHR Medical Experts Published in Science Magazine
In an article published by the journal Science, PHR experts Dr. Scott Allen, Dr. Allen Keller, and Dr. Vince Iacopino show that the Bush administration relied on flawed science to justify the use of Enhanced Interrogation Techniques (EITs) which were previously recognized as torture by the US government. The article, Bad Science Used to Support Torture and Human Experimentation can be found in the January 7, 2011, issue of Science.

"A summary of the article, a PDF reprint, and the full text of the article may be found at these links:

Summary
http://bit.ly/izkxMr

Reprint (pdf)
http://bit.ly/mzXtF7

Full Text
http://bit.ly/mrBtxU
Posted by Sir Vivor, Monday, 16 May 2011 5:49:50 PM
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I don't justify torture. I do justify treating muslim extremists how they like to treat others. Recant or be beheaded live on TV. Execution is not, by definition, torture.
Posted by Custard, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 2:47:48 PM
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So Custard you want to aspire to the attitudes and behaviours of barbarians?
Posted by pelican, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 2:56:57 PM
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The oldest law on earth, treat others as you expect them to treat you.

Why should Muslim extremists, who have chosen to live in Countries where they are subject to Sharia law, be tried by any system OTHER than their Countries system?

Personally I'd hand David Hicks over to the Northern Alliance, same with all the Guantanamo "detainees". They chose their law & sought to impose that legal system on others. In areas controlled by the Northern Alliance being a member of the Taliban will get you a cigarette and an early morning appointment with 12 of your peers.
Posted by Custard, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 6:22:56 PM
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Custard
an Iranian court recently sentenced a man to be blinded by having acid dripped into his eyes as punishment for blinding a woman with acid.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110514/wl_afp/irancourtjusticeislam
Do you support this approach?
Posted by Rhian, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 8:45:59 PM
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