Cheryl-

1) my post said I do not endorse any form of financial incentive OR disincentive to have children; Simply remove all forms of allowance or tax so having children in itself is a tax-neutral option.

2)Then they'd have to demonstrate how their non-secular education substantiates an education in general, AND demonstrate a secular disposition. If they only went to some Quranic recital school- too bad for them.

3)Naturally

4)Good question- not voting for him in the first place and demanding a proper replacement leader for the Liberals would hopefully a good starting point- voting him out some time later would have to be the next one.

5) No it isn't. CIR is for everyone that demands democratic accountability; that varies from outspoken fringes of society- to mentally sound, educated people like the moderate, liberal SOS and anti-corruption people and democracy enthusiasts like Ted Mack from the Eastern Suburbs of Sydney. Narrowing CIR to a single demographic is like saying that only Christian fundamentalists enjoy eating carrots.

CIR might be OK King Hazza, but how do we repeal bad laws made by those who vote with the majority and pass laws such as people must only have one child, all Muslims need to eat pork or haircuts must only be allowed on Thursdays?

I prefer (but only just) being represented by a Bi cameral parliament rather than the mob. But I can certainly see the emotional appeal. So could Robespierre.

Can anyone varify if these figures are true ?

The Australian Federal Government provides the following financial assistance:-
BENEFIT
AUSTRALIAN AGED PENSIONER
Weekly allowance
$253.00
Weekly Spouse allowance
$56.00
Additional weekly hardship allowance
$0.00

ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN AUSTRALIA
$472.50
Weekly Spouse allowance
$472.50
Additional weekly hardship allowance
$145.00

TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT
$16,068.00
$56,680.00

Cheryl and some others clearly don't understand about demographic momentum. They seem to think that we would have a declining population right now without immigration. In fact, according to the ABS, 156,500 people were added by natural increase in the year to Sept. 30, 2010. This was 46% of total population growth, with the rest due to net immigration. It is true that the fertility rate is slightly below replacement level and has been since 1976, but growth by natural increase isn't expected to stop until the 2030s, although this depends on people's family size decisions. It takes most of a human lifetime to change over from the pyramid-shaped age distribution of rapid population growth to the columnar age distribition of a stable population. Before this happens, the young adult generation having the babies will far outnumber the elderly generation where most of the deaths occur. See

http://beacheconomist.com/popdis2.gif

Hang on a sec - you're saying we're below replacement pop without immigration and you agree with the ABS figures of schedule B that we're at 1.9 births?

And you agree that at initial conditions (now) we will continue to have approx (minus immigrant births) a birth frequency of 1.8 or 1.9 (it is slowly decreasing).

The the problem, so far as you're concerned is entirely about immigrants and reproduction of immigrants in Australia. You're more Enoch Powell rather than Baden Powell.

Divergence, if we have already populated the future, what do you propose to do about it? You therefore need to reduce the number of people who have already been born

Want immigrants familiar with secularism? Try White/Western populations.

Sex education? White.
Democracy? White.
Skills? White.
Moderate birth rates? White.
Rule of law? White.
Personal liberty? White.
Property rights? White.
Literacy? White.
Numeracy? White.
Wealth? White.

You name it, if it's something we want in Australia, you can find it in other White populations.

So instead of trying to row upstream, why not do the obvious?

Restrict immigration to countries with majority White/Western populations, with similar standards of living (that may exclude some Eastern European and Latin American countries until their standards imprrove).

Every single migrant doesn't have to be White, just born and raised in one of those First World countries, so familiar with these modern, Western social elements.

But no, we can't do that.
That might offend someone.
Let's destroy our future instead. As long as nobody's offended!