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Goldstone gazumped on Gaza : Comments

By David Singer, published 7/4/2011

Richard Goldstone's faulty report should be expunged from the public record, along with all the UN discussion relating to it.

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Keith is of course one hunderd percent correct.

The true heroes of this conflict are the upstanding men who detonate themselves in crowded restaurants and movie theaters. They're the fine specimens of humanity who break into the home of a family and slit the throats of the children as well as the adults. They're the people who aim their rockets at suburbs, rather than militray targets, becauase thats what creates maximum damage.

Yes Keith your absoltulety right. These are the real heroes. How is it we all failed to see it until now?
Posted by PaulL, Thursday, 7 April 2011 9:00:02 PM
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Its interesting to note that no-one challenged the basic facts as presented by Singer.

The report was commsioned by the UNHRC. It has already been stated that this organistation spends the vast majority of its time examining Israel and its actions, which defies any rational explanation. Unless, of course, you belong to the loony left, in which case you might actually be able to convince yourself that Israel IS the worlds worst human rights abuser.

Unfortunately for the anti-Israel cheersquad, most sane Australians do not consider this to be the case. This is the notwithstanding the absurd levels of moral outrage that the BDS proponents are able to manufacture. I've not once seen the same level of vitriol directed at serious human rights abusers, like North Korea, or Zimbabwe, or China.

Those who defend the claims of targeting civillians must resort to fallacious reasoning. It almost always goes like this.

1) Palestinian civillians died during the fighting (this is, of course,true and a real tradgedy)

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2) some of the time, the weapons that killed them were Israeli. ( this is also true, and also regrettable)

= 3) Therefore, The IDF deliberately targets civillians.

What they don't say is that the terrorist organisations that attack Israel use their own people as shields, which is what leads to most of the civillian casulaties.

The anti Israel lobby don't accept that Israel has any right to protect itself. Of course, they will ignore the fact that this course, whilst protecting innocent Palestinian civillians, fails to protect inncocent Israeli civillians. Although, its a good bet most of these people don't believe there is such a thing as an innocent Israeli civillian. Which shows you just how close their ideology is to Hamas's.

Israel cannot wipe its hands of its responsibility for the deaths of Gazan civillians, but if we are to assign blame then the vast majority must be sheeted home to those who attack Israel from behind the skirts of their women.

BTW MiaCat, Gaza is not occupied by Israel, its blockaded. Get your facts straight.
Posted by PaulL, Thursday, 7 April 2011 10:19:14 PM
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The UN Human Rights mob, and every other Human Rights organisation in the world, seem to be concerned only with protecting the "rights" of terrorists, criminals, and illegal immigrants.

All of them can be relied upon to always attack Israel for defending itself, while exhibiting a case of extreme myopia to the fact that every Muslim country in the Middle East wants to obliterate it, because it represents a backward step in the creation of a worldwide Muslim caliphate.
Posted by LEGO, Friday, 8 April 2011 6:13:56 AM
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"They all share responsibility for the enormous harm suffered by Israel," says the Singer with a straight face.

Israel suffered the loss of nine Israelis (four more of them were shot by their own forces) while the Palestinians lost 1,400 people, four hundred of them kids as well as the almost complete destruction of all their infrastructure! Yet the Singer wails about Israel's losses.

Don't you see that the Singer is just a stirrer, a deluded religious fanatic whose only purpose is to get people on OLO going. His last mischief received more than 80 responses, 79 more than his article deserved.

How much longer do we have to put up with Singer's mischievous tripe?
Posted by David G, Friday, 8 April 2011 7:53:27 AM
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It is pleasing to see the level of intelligence and understanding among the comments, now a much greater understanding in the world that Israel is a pariah state.

Having said that, we will probably see an increased level of Israeli sayanims posing as Australian citizens, dual-passports at the ready, writing their propaganda straight from the pages of the Netanyahu doomsday book to the strains of the "The Ethnic Cleansing Rag", literally done to death over the past 66 years. See Gaza, 2008. Sabra, Shatila and on.

It is easy to feel sorry for the likes of Judge Goldstone who has no credibility in the world and is now a spent force. But he was weak, did not have the courage to face the slings and arrows of the evil Israeli machine and all that means with a strong possibility of becoming another assassination statistic or the victim of some false flag exercise. Such was their hatred for Goldstone.

The trade mark of Zionism.

There are so many wonderful Jews who have turned the corner and seen the nature of Israeli government, most of them writers and activists. They counter the offsite Congress in Washington called AIPAC, (look it up if you have a strong constitution). It is a fifth column with no interest in the US, just wielding influence by bribery and corruption to a most appreciative group of Congress men and women, hundreds of millions of dollars very year which comes from the US taxpayers as aid to Israel and comes right back again as corruption to enable a vote for further aid to Israel. Clever.

The US is paying for its own downfall. A death wish.

We are plagued in Australia by similar operatives under many names and guises and their success in having the likes of our current, but hopefully temporary Prime MInister, Ms Gillard in their grasp would seem to be a great win. Sorry!.

For the humanists in Australia that deplore Gillard’s total disregard for Palestinians, now you know the way it all happens.

The Goldstone syndrome, alive and well. Like a cancer.
Posted by rexw, Friday, 8 April 2011 9:12:40 AM
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I seem to have stirred up a storm of responses which do not attempt to deal with the allegations in my article.

Instead most responses go off on an entirely different trip of their own speculating on the reasons why Goldstone has now recanted from the terms of his original Report.

This is a tried and true smokescreen. Ignore discussing the message by raising other issues that have no relevance to the message - and at the same time denigrate the messenger.

I suggest you all calm down and take a cold shower and listen to what #Paull said.

"Its interesting to note that no-one challenged the basic facts as presented by Singer."

I repeat that I have alleged the Goldstone Commissioners - all four of them - should have recused themselves or not been appointed by the UN Human Rights Council because of known bias publicly disclosed before their appointment.

If this had occurred and four independent and impartial Commissioners had been appointed the findings may or may not have been different. However because this did not happen the Report has always been tainted. Justice must not only be done - it must be seen to be done.

If you favour kangaroo courts stacked with people who have biases or prejudice that could affect the decisions they are to make about you - then rant on to your hearts content.

Sir Gerrard Brennan said (as I set out in my article):

"There are qualities of character and disposition to be desired in all judges. The supreme judicial virtue is impartiality. Both partiality and the appearance of partiality are incompatible with the proper exercise of judicial authority. The one poisons the stream of justice at its source; the other dries it up”

The Goldstone Commissioners in my opinion failed that test.

If you disagree then say so and give your reasons. Maybe then we can have a rational discussion on the contents of my article rather than an agenda of your own choosing.
Posted by david singer, Friday, 8 April 2011 9:36:44 AM
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