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We should stop running away from radiation : Comments

By Wade Allison, published 7/4/2011

The risks from nuclear power are being greatly exaggerated.

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Stezza.Just google birth deformities Iraq,particularily in Fallujah.The deformity rate since 2003 is 10 times higher than normal.Not only that, the deformities are extreme. US soldiers come home with Gulf War syndrome which no one can expalain.They have extremely high suicide rates and a multitude of medical problems.

Would you like a container of DU ammunition under your bed,or live in an area where it has been used?Depleted Uranium is not really so depleted.It is 1.7 times heavier than lead and partially vapourises on impact.

We might not be able to find a direct causal relationship because the US authorities refuse to do a proper study.Can you suggest another environmental cause for the birth defects in Iraq and the 40% reduction in sperm counts in Israel?
Posted by Arjay, Friday, 8 April 2011 6:41:34 AM
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Stezza,
You say, "Scientist are taught that correlation does not imply causation".
Is that true, because some science is already costing the world community trillions in time and money with claim global warming is caused by CO2 emissions?

Some 'science' finds evidence to suit agenda. That 'science' in the minds of many people is bringing disrespect to real science.

Yes Arjay, lower sperm count is another factor that coincides with global radioactive pollution, as with plutonium being found in surface soil generally. The latter is indicated in discussion about plutonium found at the Fukushima "partial" meltdown.
Where is the evidence all this radioactive residue is not causing cancer and low sperm counts?
Posted by JF Aus, Friday, 8 April 2011 8:12:08 AM
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Science is an empirical evidence-based method, consistent with the basic laws of physics and chemistry, forming the basis of modern civilization, which benefits from medical science, agricultural science, aeronautics and many other fields.

Regarding the nuclear issue, here is what Dr Jim Green, an expert on reactors and radio isotopes states
(http://newmatilda.com/2011/04/07/do-we-know-chernobyl-death-toll)

"The International Atomic Energy Agency estimates a total collective dose of 600,000 person-Sieverts over 50 years from Chernobyl fallout (see the IAEA Bulletin, Vol.38, No.1, 1996). A standard risk estimate from the International Commission on Radiological Protection is 0.05 fatal cancers per Sievert. Multiply those figures and we get an estimated 30,000 fatal cancers. Now let’s recall that, according to the BEIR report, the LNT model may overstate risks or understate them by a factor of two. Thus the estimated death toll ranges from something less than 30,000 — up to 60,000."
Posted by Andy1, Friday, 8 April 2011 8:58:01 AM
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“Wade Allison is a nuclear and medical physicist.”
It all comes down to a question of: “ My experts are bigger & better than your experts.
I keep on being told how safe nuclear radiation is. I can produce “experts who disagree on this, who do you believe?
I would sooner do with out it thank you.
The cancer rate worldwide in 1900 was 1 in 500. Now it is 1 in 2 in the “developed” world and will soon be 1 to 1.
The highest rate of cancer in the world is in Australia and second highest the US.
Does that tell you anything about what we have done to the environment in the last 110 years?
Out of interest there is a possibility that DU was used on ranges in Australia during combined US/Australia exercises. Not a nice thought as it will aerosol and blow for a 100 Kms or so.
By the way Curmudgeon, 10,000 dead in the earthquake, if you include all the deaths from radiation caused cancer and other illness in the last 60 years, how many would that add up to?
Yes I agree that there are other pollutants that are wreaking destruction, Bhopal for example but that does not mean that we should accept them as a way of living (or dying).
Posted by sarnian, Friday, 8 April 2011 9:13:37 AM
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Too ridiculous to respond anymore. This thread is morphing into why people die in this 'enlightened' age.

Hey sarnian, ever thought about food additives, preservatives and all the other processed stuff not nuclear? That is causing more havoc in society than you can ever level at nuclear radiation?
Posted by bonmot, Friday, 8 April 2011 10:10:48 AM
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Some teachers ring the bell when unable to keep ahead of the students. These days it is vacating a thread.

I think nuclear medicine is good. Nuclear power generation would be good if and when absolute safety is possible.
Posted by JF Aus, Friday, 8 April 2011 1:54:29 PM
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