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Misogynistic and racist - how will democracy work? : Comments

By Daniel Meyerowitz-Katz, published 5/4/2011

Arab societies will have to liberate the most truly oppressed of their members – women.

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Poirot makes no attempt to amswer my earlier question which was whether he thinks that women in fast breeding countries do that by choice. No, all we get is the statement that Arabs faster breeding rate will totally change Europe. That has nothing at all to do with the crunch issue which is the status/circumstances of women.
I note a couple of sentences from a speech by Sir David Attenborough to The Royal Society in London in March this year.
He has been talking about all the improvements humans have made over the millenia and continues:'But none of these achievements will be of any avail if we do not control our numbers. And we can do so. Wherever women have the vote, wherever they are literate, and have the medical facilities to control the number of children they bear, the birth rate drops.'
That fact has been known to people concerned with exponential population growth for many years; which is exactly why they advocate the education of women and the availability of contraceptive devices.
Poirot states as a fact that women in Muslim countries have a very high number of children. In the process he/she is inevitably agreeing with the idea that women are not empowered to decide what to do re number of children. And in part that is what the article was saying.
Posted by eyejaw, Thursday, 7 April 2011 9:34:15 AM
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Why exactly are the the Far Loony Left Factions of the RED/green, getup, GAYLP, Socialist Alliance so keen on bringing a Sharia Law Caliphate to the land of OZ?

That is what many Muslim immigrants want, all over the western world, wherever they settle.

And who can blame them when they get here & see how degenerate we have become over the last few decades?
Posted by Formersnag, Thursday, 7 April 2011 4:35:09 PM
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While I detest Muslim fascism,Zionist fascism is far worse since it is backed by global finance and the might of the US military.

Fukushima will be devestating to Japan and perhaps the ecology of the Pacific Ocean.Just a small nuke war will see a life of misery for billions. So choose,psychopathic insanity of a few elites or a new Renaissance of enlightenment.
Posted by Arjay, Thursday, 7 April 2011 7:44:42 PM
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eyejaw,

You make a lot of assumptions....are you doing anything to aid education in third world societies?

It's a delicate balancing act to empower these women and children with education while attempting at the same time to maintain cultural identity.

I sponsor two young girls overseas - one in Africa and one in South America. They are receiving an education and their communities are receiving development support. Hopefully the empowerment of their communities together with the chance of education helps them to make the best of their cultural heritage.
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 7 April 2011 8:03:22 PM
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Poirot this is a must see http://secretofoz.com/ 'The Wizard of Oz' by L Frank Baum had deep economic and social meaning that has been missed by history.This doco by Bill Still has won the Biff International award 2010 for best documenatary.

It will change your perception of the global finance system and how national sovereignity is the issue amongst an age of confusion and chaos.
Posted by Arjay, Thursday, 7 April 2011 8:13:51 PM
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Poirot. I am pleased to read that you support two girls, one in Africa and one in S America. You ask me what I have done to 'aid education in third world societies'. After much thought I have decided to respond to the quetion but only with reluctance because of the overtones of you show me yours etc; a sort of competition as to who is the better 'chap'.
I taught for five years in West Africa. Two of them in a boys secondary school deep in the swamps of the Niger delta (they were the cleverest classes I ever taught, partly because there was strong competition to gain entry to the school.) Then three years in an overwhelmingly Muslim area in a teacher training college for girls/women. Those women were genuinly convinced that they were inferior to men in all ways. When in a maths method lecture I used a graph from UNESCO showing what is very well known, ie that girls' intellectual development is better than boys' in the period from about 11 years to 14 years and then the males catch up. They simply did not believe me and no amount of pointing to the unimpeachable source did any good - they remained convinced that they were inferior.
I cannot agree that there is a balancing act between education for girls/women on the one hand and maintaining cultural identity on the other. To me it is a question of priority. In the context of this discussion I put education of girls/women first, anything else, no matter how desirable, second. Hence if a culture is sexist, male dominated and oppressive of women then that culture stands in the way of my top priority. By the way, I am not sure what 'assumptions' I made in an earlier post.
Arjay. We all know that you are a great anti nuker and a passionate anti Israel anti US person. I defend your right to think that even though I disagree strongly. What I cannot support, and find revolting is your apparent pleasure at the problems faced by Japan.
Posted by eyejaw, Sunday, 10 April 2011 8:05:48 AM
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