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By Chris Lewis, published 28/3/2011If carbon taxes are so effective, why has UK and EU consumption of CO2 increased despite carbon piring?
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Posted by JF Aus, Friday, 1 April 2011 7:14:10 PM
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We are given examples of the EU that we are supposed to be following.
The EU has 500 million people and emits more than 10x as much, so why then will a new carbon tax, if set at $25 a tonne, will raise more tax from liable Australian companies in its first three months than the European Union's emissions trading scheme has generated since its launch more than six years ago? Why will Australia be paying the highest carbon price in the world? Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 4 April 2011 4:40:05 AM
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CO2 debate is wasting precious time. There may be another cause of climate change.
There is a catastrophe even more pressing than unusual weather events. Let us see whether Mr Abbott is capable of handling the following real problems. Then we might be able to more easily find if he has qualities expected of a leader. We all have a right to safety. And that includes a right to complete and up to date information in Australian media. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/03/science/03meltdown.html?pagewanted=2&_r=2&nl=todaysheadlines&emc=tha2 http://www.tennessean.com/article/20110316/NEWS08/110316027/1969/NEWS/Group-warns-EPA-ready-increase-radioactive-release-guidelines-?odyssey=nav%7Chead Posted by JF Aus, Monday, 4 April 2011 6:58:15 AM
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Why will Australia be paying the highest carbon price in the world? Possibly because Australians create more carbon emissions per capita than anybody else in the world.
Reduce your emissions and pay less tax. Simple really. And that's not even taking into account the compensation measures that Shadow Minister fails to mention. Posted by morganzola, Monday, 4 April 2011 7:18:27 AM
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Got that real-world evidence of catastrophic man-made global warming there yet fellahs? Don't forget to take out any that consists of
- appeal to vest interests (that should narrow it down a bit) - assuming it in the first place and then trying to find some evidence, any evidence, to support the hypothesis - computer models and statistical operations that are guesses, not science. Posted by Peter Hume, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 12:11:57 PM
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Threat of world catastrophe comes with the emissions propaganda that has been spun around AGW, The real impact of warmer areas of the ocean anbd associated extreme weather event affects people and insurance companies. Economically it is important vested interests understand the consequences will continue because an ETS and CO2 tax/pricing will not reduce ocean algae, algae, dead zones or the increased warmth retention associated with increased ocean algae photosynthesis.
Is it hypothetical there is an unprecedented world human population and sewage nutrient pollution being dumped or draining into the ocean, or that increased nutrients proliferate and increase ocean algae? Some people may consider the situation hypothetical but other people see and touch the hard evidence, including empirical evidence. It is quite amazing how so called science avoids finding the evidence. Posted by JF Aus, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 12:56:02 PM
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I have asked a question but I have no media colleagues. Australian media is suppressing all to do with actual devastation of the marine environment, impact, consequences and solutions. Search UN World Environment Day 2004 - Seas and Ocean - wanted dead or alive. You will not find any record of that focus in any Australian government or major media. Whale stranding autopsy results are not revealed. Fish has been removed from the CPI. Value of total fish product imported into Australia is not totalled and is getting more confusing, hiding the real situation.
Now ocean devastation is under a smokescreen called AGW, climate change, ETS, carbon tax, carbon pricing. The nation should have a truthful leader. Anyway, to condense all involved into a few words to perhaps inspire real solutions, there is that basic and clear question.
Has unprecedented sewage nutrient pollution proliferated ocean algae been taken into account in AGW and IPCC science?